NFL regular season thread (week 1)

[JoeRedskin]

The only problem I see with Shiancoe/Farve is that, right now, Farve isn't going anywhere else and, while he has great hands, he was basically taken out of the game in the 2nd half by one player. NO's Harper (a linebacker, I think) shadowed him, took him out of the game AND Minn (even w/ AP) wasn't able to exploit this.

If teams can take out Shiancoe with one player AND Minn can't force them to focus on something else, Shiancoe just isn't the type of playmaker to make plays regardless (like a Gonzalez or Gates in their prime). Until Minn gets some other receiveing options working (come on P. Harvin! (have him in both my FF leagues)), Shiancoe is going to be somewhat limited.

I am sure other teams watched the game tape and saw what happened was NO took Shiancoe out of the game. Until Minn stops that, I wouldn't bank too heavily on VS. Once Rice comes back or Farve/Harvin start clicking, then VS could really explode.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

The only problem I see with Shiancoe/Farve is that, right now, Farve isn't going anywhere else and, while he has great hands, he was basically taken out of the game in the 2nd half by one player. NO's Harper (a linebacker, I think) shadowed him, took him out of the game AND Minn (even w/ AP) wasn't able to exploit this.

If teams can take out Shiancoe with one player AND Minn can't force them to focus on something else, Shiancoe just isn't the type of playmaker to make plays regardless (like a Gonzalez or Gates in their prime). Until Minn gets some other receiveing options working (come on P. Harvin! (have him in both my FF leagues)), Shiancoe is going to be somewhat limited.

I am sure other teams watched the game tape and saw what happened was NO took Shiancoe out of the game. Until Minn stops that, I wouldn't bank too heavily on VS. Once Rice comes back or Farve/Harvin start clicking, then VS could really explode.

Roman Harper is a safety.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Roman Harper is a safety.

Okay. So the Saints were forced to have a safety shadow their TE, essentially, taking him (the safety) out of the defensive equation for any other coverages or run support. Instead of 8 in the box they had to play (essentially) 7.5 in the box b/c Harper's first duty was to take VS out of the passing game. Also, I am assuming this put the other receiver's in man coverage also or at least in zone coverages with fewer defenders, and yet, Minn could not exploit this either through its running or passing game.

Not good.