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[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

It seemed to me that pocket has been trying to point out that this defense can't be successful without AH and that it's the coaches' fault if AH is whiny b**** who doesn't play hard.

Occasionally, AH made plays. Occasionally, he seemingly got pushed around or took himself out of the play. Never did it appear - to me anyway - that he was dominating in the way one would expect for a player of his talent. Rather, he did enough to get along which, b/c of his talent, is better than most.

W/ or w/out him, the defense will be okay. It's got its issues but a half-assed AH ain't gonna solve them and, unless the coaches toss their "team first" bottom line aside for a "oh pretty please Albert, we would like you to play hard and we will design a defense just for you and do whatever it takes to get you your stats" mentality, AH's attitude ain't gonna happen. I think last night proved that.

It isn't that they will be unsuccessful, I think they could be more successful with him playing. In my opinion Albert is an unusual talent. He is a guy, when used properly, who has DPOY ability. I don't think that anyone else on the defense has that kind of talent and it bothers me to have someone like that on the team who has isn't being used. Our coaches are being paid a lot of money and sometimes you have to deal with some bad when someone is that good. Jimmy Johnson never had an issue. Hell, Marvin Lewis accomplished a lot with a bunch of characters last year.

I don't want 8-8, I want at least 9-7 or 10-6 with a possible division win and some type of playoff run. The Jets showed that a dominant defense can get a team with offensive issues close to the promised land. Getting to the playoffs is one thing but to succeed you need talent and the ability to create mismatches. IMO Albert is the only guy on the line that can consistently create a mismatch.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

It seemed to me that pocket has been trying to point out that this defense can't be successful without AH and that it's the coaches' fault if AH is whiny b**** who doesn't play hard.

Occasionally, AH made plays. Occasionally, he seemingly got pushed around or took himself out of the play. Never did it appear - to me anyway - that he was dominating in the way one would expect for a player of his talent. Rather, he did enough to get along which, b/c of his talent, is better than most.

W/ or w/out him, the defense will be okay. It's got its issues but a half-assed AH ain't gonna solve them and, unless the coaches toss their "team first" bottom line aside for a "oh pretty please Albert, we would like you to play hard and we will design a defense just for you and do whatever it takes to get you your stats" mentality, AH's attitude ain't gonna change. I think last night proved that.

What he said...

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Even team cancers can have their share of good or ok plays. That's what he's trying to point out. If you want to deny the plays that he was alright on though, provide evidence said plays didn't happen. Simple.

Find a post where I said he doesn't contribute. I know he's a beast at times when he's in there, but he's wildly inconsistent and a head case. To boot he has a gigantic contract. He's gonna draw some fire.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

And I have to say that Pocket actually cares more about being objective than Scud. My $.02.

Thanks SCP. I know I say a lot of stupid stuff sometimes but when it comes to seriously discussing the team, I try to look at it from what is best for them. That is why I defended Landry at nauseum in the offseason for example.

[Monkeydad]

^ I'm sure Kyle will give Haslett some good tips...it's our only chance. Houston looks scary.

[saden1]

Albert played on only 16 plays, even if he was successful in 8 of those plays that is still unacceptable. He can do better, he should do better and pacing on the sideline didn't seem to help his game.

[diehard]

I think Haynesworth is simply not cut out for what we need him to do. The scheme is somewhat irrelevant. For the money he was signed for and the opportunity for this team to contend, I think a trade is best for both sides. I won't say that he's dumb, stubborn and resistant to change. He's needs to be able to freelance to dominate. How many coaches want that in a player? You sacrifice some things when let a player do what he does best. It's risk-reward. Right now, the scheme is pourous for lack of talent and expertise but, other guys are compensating. That's not good for the long term.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by diehard

I think Haynesworth is simply not cut out for what we need him to do. The scheme is somewhat irrelevant. For the money he was signed for and the opportunity for this team to contend, I think a trade is best for both sides. I won't say that he's dumb, stubborn and resistant to change. He's needs to be able to freelance to dominate. How many coaches want that in a player? You sacrifice some things when let a player do what he does best. It's risk-reward. Right now, the scheme is pourous for lack of talent and expertise but, other guys are compensating. That's not good for the long term.

He isn't the only one though and other guys are sticking out even more. Carter is a fish out of water as he was as invisible as Galloway on offense. Fletcher and McIntosh seem out of place too.

Orakpo (maybe Alexander) is pretty much the only guy who seems like he fits the 3-4 in our front 7.

[JoeRedskin]

So, after one game in teh new system, everyone who criticized Landry is wrong about all personnel moves and you are right?

The Landry and AH scenarios are completely different. One wants to be here, one doesn't. One bought into the system, one wont. Guess which is which.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

So, after one game in teh new system, everyone who criticized Landry is wrong about all personnel moves and you are right?

The Landry and AH scenarios are completely different. One wants to be here, one doesn't. One bought into the system, one wont. Guess which is which.

Well you could make the argument that it's the opposite. Landry used to play out of position, and this new scheme (along with him being back at SS) has helped him play better. AH clearly doesn't fit the 3-4, on top of all the drama that he's brought upon himself.

I still think that the team should've have thrown that 21 mil out the window and traded him. We'd be in a much better situation.

[saden1]

I nominate Pocket$ $traight for a goat award. Worst armchair coaching I've seen a long time.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by saden1

I nominate Pocket$ $traight for a goat award. Worst armchair coaching I've seen a long time.

I think Pocket$ $traight is Haynesworth. I mean lets look at the facts.

- He constantly defends Albert
- His SN is a reference to financial security
- He hates Mike Shanahan
- He doesn't show up to offseason posting activies

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I think Pocket$ $traight is Haynesworth. I mean lets look at the facts.

- He constantly defends Albert
- His SN is a reference to financial security
- He hates Mike Shanahan
- He doesn't show up to offseason posting activies

Yeah, with a name like Pocket$ $triaght...

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yeah, with a name like Pocket$ $triaght...

I guess I have to explain this since people have short/bad memories. "Pockets Straight" is what Portis said to B-Mich when they got into it on the John Thompson show. It is a joke not a reference to my financial status. I work for the Gov't and have been middle class my whole life.

Because making false assumptions is so commonplace around here, I wanted to set this straight. (kind of like my pockets...)

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I guess I have to explain this since people have short/bad memories. "Pockets Straight" is what Portis said to B-Mich when they got into it on the John Thompson show. It is a joke not a reference to my financial status. I work for the Gov't and have been middle class my whole life.

Because making false assumptions is so commonplace around here, I wanted to set this straight. (kind of like my pockets...)

Hay moron, you seem to make a lot of assumptions about people who support Obama. If you want to talk politics we have a forum for that. In the future keep the discussions in the Locker Room politics free. Ya'heard? You've already added nothing to the forum, don't make it worse by adding politics to your already stupid posts.