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Old 09-14-2010, 08:49 PM   #1
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Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter

Two issues here:

1. Male reporters ARE allowed into WNBA locker rooms after games. The athletes know they are going to be there and they are dressed/showered/bathrobed accordingly. Anyone who says male reporters are banned or are restricted in any way simply has not ever done any locker room sports coverage.

By the way, a WNBA locker room is about as arousing as an issue of Maxim Magazine. And if that sends anyone into rapturous states, then that someone has serious problems.


2. What is fundamentally wrong with what CP said in his first statement is this:
The NFL - - his employer, the entity that puts the $$$ in his bank account - - has a LONGSTANDING policy that men and women reporters SHALL have equal access to the locker rooms of NFL teams.
If CP does not like the policy, he can make a case against the policy and perhaps start a discussion that might be interesting - - - even if it will change nothing. But he chose to go the route that NE Pats' players went with Lisa Olsen about 25 years ago saying she was "staring" and "shopping around" in the locker room. EVEN IF THAT WERE TRUE - - and I have no idea if it is now or was then - - that position is untenable in 2010.
Memo to CP:

That position undermines your employer, dummy.

Even your union - - which will stand up for dogfighters - - has decried that statement.
CP needs to let out the clutch and engage his brain for just a couple of milliseconds before he wags his tongue in the future.

It has been a while since I have used this sobriquet but at the moment it seems highly appropriate:
MEATHEAD!!
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:34 PM   #2
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Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter

From what I've been reading (and seeing in photos), Sainz is known to athletes as having a less-than-professional demeanor compared to other journalists. When I say "professional", I really mean "American professional" when speaking of journalism.







Sainz, herself, said she didn't really deem the catcalls offensive and if I'm a betting man, the players who did it probably were comfortable doing so knowing her personality. Not really sure how Mexican female sports reporters (especially at TV Azteca) go about their business, but Sainz' perspective is a bit different than the female reporter who was offended. There's a definite way to behave within American work place environments- and having been around the world, I can say journalism is one industry that diverges widely in several aspects (including content, bias, professionalism, etc).

I'm not saying catcalls are acceptable in a work place, but there's a gray area when it comes to this particular journalist. I don't know of any serious female reporter who measures body parts with a tape, who wears midriffs during an interview or happily lets a player lift her up. I think Sainz was treated differently than an Erin Andrews or Michelle Beadle for a reason.
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:14 PM   #3
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Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter

I think the real reason she did this was because TV Azteca sent her to New Jersey. After visiting the pit, she realized that Mexico wasn't so bad after all.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:58 PM   #4
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Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter

She's just doing her job and I think she wasn't too bothered with what happened. But there may be some journalist who wanted to be her knight in shining armor who made a big deal of the thing. (Or maybe it was a jealous female journalist.)

My wife is Mexican, so we see a lot of Spanish-language channels. They expect their women not to be afraid to be sexy and friendly flirting is promoted on a lot of shows. They wouldn't dream, for instance, of fining a player for handing a ball to a cheerleader, or of showing players' butts instead of cheerleaders' butts during a time out. (Obscenities, however, are out of line.)

You may want to check out Republica Deportiva for the flavor of a sports show from south of the border.

Voted fifth-sexiest sportscaster worldwide by FHM online The Five Sexiest Sports Reporters in the World | FHMonline.com.

In fact the following comments, which appear at
Ines Sainz (PICTURES): Mexican Reporter was "Dying of Discomfort" in Jets Locker Room - Crimesider - CBS News
lend more clarity to the situation.

"I'm dying of discomfort!" ... "I am in the Jets Locker room waiting for Mark Sanchez, while trying not to look to anywhere!"
(The latter part of this statement is somehow is missing in most reports.)

"It was definitely a joking tone, very amicable," Sainz said in an interview with a colleague. "I wasn't offended."

She told TV Azteca that though she was embarrassed, she didn't take it to heart and didn't realize it was going to become such a big deal, according to CNN.

The following was a comment made on the same page:
The "reporter" that was harassed in the locker room invited cat calls and everything else that happened with her choice of clothing and providing ready access to the assets they were addressing. Her choice of clothing for the locker room and your show were offensive to me (former female journalist on local level)! I would never have worn such an outfit to ANY interview, but especially a sporting event. Her clothes were too tight and her bosoms were practically pushed in the faces, even this morning on your show.

Maybe some of the people (reporters) from here should realize that not all people are from countries founded by Puritans, and that they should be allowed to decide for themselves if they are offended or not.
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:35 AM   #5
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Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter

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Sainz, herself, said she didn't really deem the catcalls offensive and if I'm a betting man, the players who did it probably were comfortable doing so knowing her personality. Not really sure how Mexican female sports reporters (especially at TV Azteca) go about their business, but Sainz' perspective is a bit different than the female reporter who was offended. There's a definite way to behave within American work place environments- and having been around the world, I can say journalism is one industry that diverges widely in several aspects (including content, bias, professionalism, etc).

I'm not saying catcalls are acceptable in a work place, but there's a gray area when it comes to this particular journalist. I don't know of any serious female reporter who measures body parts with a tape, who wears midriffs during an interview or happily lets a player lift her up. I think Sainz was treated differently than an Erin Andrews or Michelle Beadle for a reason.
Yeah fair enough. This kind of stuff is commonplace on TV Azteca, but not in the US. What's she broadcasting is for TV Azteca, but she's getting her material in a totally different environemnt. So I guess there's fine line between what the league and the major networks deem acceptable and the minimum that TV Azteca is asking as far as her outfits/etc. But was she measuring biceps and wearing a bare midriff in the Jets locker room?
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Yeah fair enough. This kind of stuff is commonplace on TV Azteca, but not in the US. What's she broadcasting is for TV Azteca, but she's getting her material in a totally different environemnt. So I guess there's fine line between what the league and the major networks deem acceptable and the minimum that TV Azteca is asking as far as her outfits/etc. But was she measuring biceps and wearing a bare midriff in the Jets locker room?
Your point rings true- she wasn't pulling her sideline antics inside the locker room and she was probably there for post-game interviews only. The players obviously didn't use good judgment when treating in the locker room like they do outside... especially when there's other female (American) reporters who would take offense.
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