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Old 09-19-2010, 08:41 PM   #1
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Re: Skins need to further invest in the trenches next season

I think our biggest problem so far has been general confusion in the secondary. I mean we're talking 8-10 plays this year where I, with an untrained eye and the lack of game film, have noticed open WRs simply because of poor secondary play. Too many times a guy is released into a zone and there is no safety there to pick up coverage. Either the CBs need to stop releasing everyone or the safeties need to stop biting on the play action or picking up the wrong WR. That has to stop. I know it's new scheme and that is the issue but they HAVE to improve on that.
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:48 PM   #2
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Defense allowed 526 yards, 468 yards came at the expense of our secondary. Too much blitzing by our secondary doesn't leave for protection against receivers.
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:03 PM   #3
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I think our biggest problem so far has been general confusion in the secondary. I mean we're talking 8-10 plays this year where I, with an untrained eye and the lack of game film, have noticed open WRs simply because of poor secondary play. Too many times a guy is released into a zone and there is no safety there to pick up coverage. Either the CBs need to stop releasing everyone or the safeties need to stop biting on the play action or picking up the wrong WR. That has to stop. I know it's new scheme and that is the issue but they HAVE to improve on that.
No doubt -- the obvious problem today was in the secondary. But I don't know if it's a scheme-type problem. Rogers, Hall, and Buchanon make up a veteran group of guys who should be familiar with what Haslett is trying to do. If anything, with as many blitzes as he's called, he's got faith in their abilities.

They just flat got out-classed today. And let's not forget, there were times last season when this same group of guys got torched in the passing game. Another playmaker would be nice, but every now and then you're going to have a potent offense that'll make you look like fools.
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After today here's what I would do:

Cut Larry Johnson, the game went downhill after he ran backwards and lost 10 yards.

Promote Torain from PS
Cut Roydell Williams
Promote Austin from PS
Start Kareem Moore next week
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:34 PM   #5
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After today here's what I would do:

Cut Larry Johnson, the game went downhill after he ran backwards and lost 10 yards.

Promote Torain from PS
Cut Roydell Williams
Promote Austin from PS
Start Kareem Moore next week
He did fine today though... I take it you would do that to put Torain or Austin on the field, my problem is that Austin is a decent returner, but the even better returner who made the team, Brandon Banks, hasn't even been active yet.
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He did fine today though... I take it you would do that to put Torain or Austin on the field, my problem is that Austin is a decent returner, but the even better returner who made the team, Brandon Banks, hasn't even been active yet.
We need more playmakers, I feel Austin if given the chance would come through. I think Torain is an upgrade to Johnson who is washed up.
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As a general rule I wish we would select a lineman with one of our top two picks every year.
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After today here's what I would do:

Cut Larry Johnson, the game went downhill after he ran backwards and lost 10 yards.

Promote Torain from PS
Cut Roydell Williams
Promote Austin from PS
Start Kareem Moore next week

No real upgrades there Fred. IF CP can't get the yardage, do you think Torain can? CP was doing well in the preseason games, only to be stymied when the games count. IF Banks is non existent now, do you really think Austin is going to make a difference? Moore is going to start as soon as he is cleared I am sure.
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No real upgrades there Fred. IF CP can't get the yardage, do you think Torain can? CP was doing well in the preseason games, only to be stymied when the games count. IF Banks is non existent now, do you really think Austin is going to make a difference?
Yep! We need a youth infusion.
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Yep! We need a youth infusion.
I agree with the youth infusion. That is why I always bitch and moan about giving away our draft picks for these free agents, but in terms of production, we will not be better served putting in Torain or Austin. Our line is not fully developed and obviously isn't very good at run blocking, so putting Torain in there just will get him beat up. Our Wrs did their job today. The secondary was lit up like it was 4th of July!!!!
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I agree with the youth infusion. That is why I always bitch and moan about giving away our draft picks for these free agents, but in terms of production, we will not be better served putting in Torain or Austin. Our line is not fully developed and obviously isn't very good at run blocking, so putting Torain in there just will get him beat up. Our Wrs did their job today. The secondary was lit up like it was 4th of July!!!!
468 yards were given up. I think the problem is too much blitzing by corners, leaving them vulnerable and the LB's to short passes and miss matches. I would say the defense coordinator schemes were the problem not adjusting to repetitive plays over and over.
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Re: Skins need to further invest in the trenches next season

I'm telling you guys the running game is fine. Playcalling and situations have taken away from it. We've been able to run well late in games, all we need now is to use it more and bam, we're off and running. Time will prove me right so someone hold me to this like Alex Barron on a game winning drive (Or Stephon Heyer on a 3rd and long coversion, whatever floats your boat).
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