The never ending Jason Campbell player haters ball

[30gut]

So after all that bluster and condescension this?

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Sure, if he means that from this offseason, black qbs are being benched "quicker" by white head coaches, while other different white head coaches allow white qbs to stay on, then that would be a yes.

Did it finally dawn on you that you were arguing against points i wasn't making?

-BTW you're the one mentioning the race of the HC not the author.
Which renders your point about Hue Jackson being black as another strawman:

Of course, the article writer's point kind of died due to his supporting arguments dying. Now, he's saying that Hue Jackson shouldn't have done it because it divided the locker room even though Gradkowski played better.

SCP-
I try to post in conversational manner.
Like 2 guys sitting in a bar drinking a beer, shooting the breeze talking football.
I would like to keep my conversations in this forum at that level.
Even if we disagree, which will happen theres no reason we should repeat our past discourse.

HTTR!

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by 30gut

So after all that bluster and condescension this?


Did it finally dawn on you that you were arguing against points i wasn't making?

-BTW you're the one mentioning the race of the HC not the author.
Which renders your point about Hue Jackson being black as another strawman:

Yeah, I'll admit specifically where I'm wrong, but will continue to duke it out on points I still deem debatable. I bungled up on your questions and simply answered them, although I still will not back down from that pseudo-intellectual comment.
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Moving on...

The author not very precise with his position to begin with, although that's forgivable because it's a blog post and not a hardcore paper meant to be read by academia.

However, he did mention that there appears to be an "awful trend" and he hoped it wouldn't continue. He may not have mentioned the race HC's race explicitly, but it's implied. The coaches were white guys. The "victim" QBs were black. The "entitled" QBs were white. If one assumes that he believes there was some "tribalism" going on in the coaches' mind, then based on that assumption, then one can definitely think that he believes a racist double standard is being applied by coaches.

I do not see what is really awful pattern about a black coach benching or asking for a benching of a black qb for a white qb, unless it's about black coaches having no guts to stand up to a white guy or something like that. However, there are no examples of such that I can think of at the moment, hence I don't think he really considered that line of thought when posting his blog post.

Even if it's assumed that he includes coaches of whatever color, it's still implies that there is race is affecting decisions made about who is qb. If it's a white coach doing the benching, it could be tribalism at work. If it's a black coach, then could be not standing up for your own race.

After Jackson talks, he does write a post about the situation in response to that. He says that Jackson made the right decision on a technical level but not "politically", and by that he meant locker room politics. Not a single mention of race or it being a part of an "awful trend". It was all about the move forming divisions in the locker room.

SCP-
I try to post in conversational manner.
Like 2 guys sitting in a bar drinking a beer, shooting the breeze talking football.
I would like to keep my conversations in this forum at that level.
Even if we disagree, which will happen theres no reason we should repeat are past discourse.

HTTR!

I'm aware that I go into "checking liner" mode often. You just met the very tamed down version of it. A few years back and it would have been uglier(and likely more embarrassing on my end).

That said, I'm one of those guys who also have nerd tendencies, hence, I might seem anal retentive to details and such.

In short, I guess you can call me a mean nerd.