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Old 10-03-2010, 10:17 PM   #1
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Cutler is worse than Campbell, thank god they didn't give up the farm for this clown.
Bears o-line is worse than ours. Cutler can win games with his ability. Campbell always needs others.
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Bears o-line is worse than ours. Cutler can win games with his ability. Campbell always needs others.
Apparently that wasn't the case tonight, Cutler looked like crap and had the same issues that Campbell has had in the past. Cutler is not elite enough to beat a team by himself, something that you'll see the likes of Manning, Brees, and Brady do.
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Apparently that wasn't the case tonight, Cutler looked like crap and had the same issues that Campbell has had in the past. Cutler is not elite enough to beat a team by himself, something that you'll see the likes of Manning, Brees, and Brady do.
He beat Green Bay and Dallas. He made big plays to Knox. He extended a play in which he was about to get canned by GB and flipped it to Olsen.
Hell, last year, he beat the Vikes with a beautifully thrown ball to Aromashodu.

This week, the O-line could not tread water like they did in the previous weeks and he gets smacked with a concussion. The Bears o-line is never going to dominate an opposing o-line this year. They'll always be underdogs.


Cutler may be facing similar external issuses to Campbell like the shitty O-line, but mentally and physically, he is much above Campbell. Campbell is not good with "over the top routes" or routes in which the target point has leads the receiver "up" field. He's only good at stuff like comebacks and the like. Campbell is also mediocre at extending the play, while Cutler has shown he can avoid some critical sacks and the like.
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He beat Green Bay and Dallas. He made big plays to Knox. He extended a play in which he was about to get canned by GB and flipped it to Olsen.
Hell, last year, he beat the Vikes with a beautifully thrown ball to Aromashodu.

This week, the O-line could not tread water like they did in the previous weeks and he gets smacked with a concussion. The Bears o-line is never going to dominate an opposing o-line this year. They'll always be underdogs.

Cutler may be facing similar external issuses to Campbell like the shitty O-line, but mentally and physically, he is much above Campbell. Campbell is not good with "over the top routes" or routes in which the target point has leads the receiver "up" field. He's only good at stuff like comebacks and the like. Campbell is also mediocre at extending the play, while Cutler has shown he can avoid some critical sacks and the like.
Why do you keep comparing Cutler to Campbell? It makes no sense whatsoever. Cutler is a good QB, not a great one; and the other is a mediocre QB that is sitting on Oakland's bench.

Cutler got dominated by another team and was not able to overcome the the deficiencies of his offense (although I think their D played well and gave the offense opportunities to come back in this game). Now he has a concussion and who knows what will become of him. End of story.
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Why do you keep comparing Cutler to Campbell? It makes no sense whatsoever. Cutler is a good QB, not a great one; and the other is a mediocre QB that is sitting on Oakland's bench.

Cutler got dominated by another team and was not able to overcome the the deficiencies of his offense (although I think their D played well and gave the offense opportunities to come back in this game). Now he has a concussion and who knows what will become of him. End of story.
You tried to make them appear equivalent. I responded with a counter.

Giants D-line played lights out and milked the laws of physics in their favor. Cutler's not going to overcome EVERY game, but he has made it work against Green Bay and Dallas and a few others. He's outdone Campbell in that regard. He and the refs are why the Bears are overachieving as much as they are. Put in someone with worse pocket presence and the like, and they're lucky to even milk out one win.
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You tried to make them appear equivalent. I responded with a counter.

Giants D-line played lights out and milked the laws of physics in their favor. Cutler's not going to overcome EVERY game, but he has made it work against Green Bay and Dallas and a few others. He's outdone Campbell in that regard. He and the refs are why the Bears are overachieving as much as they are. Put in someone with worse pocket presence and the like, and they're lucky to even milk out one win.
But you started to compare them initially, once again, I don't get why you do it.

Anyway, I think that any QB in that pocket (the Bears) would not have succeeded or survived. It seems that the Giants D-line got the whole "we're desperate for a win" down tonight.
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He beat Green Bay and Dallas. He made big plays to Knox. He extended a play in which he was about to get canned by GB and flipped it to Olsen.
Hell, last year, he beat the Vikes with a beautifully thrown ball to Aromashodu.

This week, the O-line could not tread water like they did in the previous weeks and he gets smacked with a concussion. The Bears o-line is never going to dominate an opposing o-line this year. They'll always be underdogs.


Cutler may be facing similar external issuses to Campbell like the shitty O-line, but mentally and physically, he is much above Campbell. Campbell is not good with "over the top routes" or routes in which the target point has leads the receiver "up" field. He's only good at stuff like comebacks and the like. Campbell is also mediocre at extending the play, while Cutler has shown he can avoid some critical sacks and the like.
No the Defense beat GB and Dallas
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No the Defense beat GB and Dallas
Hmm, the throw to Knox?
Dumpoff to Olsen?
Bomb to Knox?
Slant to Olsen?
How about having that crappy o-line hold up against GB's and Dallas's rush with well-executed and accurate quick throws? The Bears D is nowhere near elite status here. They need offense to make things click, and Cutler played a big role to make the O click in those two games.
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Hmm, the throw to Knox?
Dumpoff to Olsen?
Bomb to Knox?
Slant to Olsen?
How about having that crappy o-line hold up against GB's and Dallas's rush with well-executed and accurate quick throws? The Bears D is nowhere near elite status here. They need offense to make things click, and Cutler played a big role to make the O click in those two games.
hmmm the FF by Briggs and Urlacher leading to the game winning FG
hmmm the Hester PR
hmmm the fact that Cutler threw another red zone int
hmmm the fact that Dallas just isnt that good
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:05 AM   #10
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hmmm the FF by Briggs and Urlacher leading to the game winning FG
hmmm the Hester PR
hmmm the fact that Cutler threw another red zone int
hmmm the fact that Dallas just isnt that good
Dallas's defense is still one of the top units in the league and was thrashing Cutler early on in the game. hmmmmmm
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He beat Green Bay and Dallas. He made big plays to Knox. He extended a play in which he was about to get canned by GB and flipped it to Olsen.
Hell, last year, he beat the Vikes with a beautifully thrown ball to Aromashodu.

This week, the O-line could not tread water like they did in the previous weeks and he gets smacked with a concussion. The Bears o-line is never going to dominate an opposing o-line this year. They'll always be underdogs.


Cutler may be facing similar external issuses to Campbell like the shitty O-line, but mentally and physically, he is much above Campbell. Campbell is not good with "over the top routes" or routes in which the target point has leads the receiver "up" field. He's only good at stuff like comebacks and the like. Campbell is also mediocre at extending the play, while Cutler has shown he can avoid some critical sacks and the like.
Like he did nine times against the Giants?

Cutler is good but not elite.
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