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Old 10-04-2010, 06:29 PM   #1
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Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems?

I was listening to ESPN 980 today and they were talking, think it was five guys, could be mistaken. Don't know who they all were, know one was Doc and I think the other one was Kevin Sheehan.

Anyways, they were talking all sports as usual and they read one email from I believe what was an ex quarterback. He believes that the problem with Carlos Rogers might be lack of depth perception.

I was wondering does anyone think this might be a problem? I mean it seems like it could be one in all seriousness. The man did say his was so bad at some points he couldn't even put the toothpaste on the toothbrush.

Personally I think his problem is brick hands, but anyone think this might be a possible reason to his interception problems?
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Old 10-04-2010, 06:32 PM   #2
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Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems?

I don't think it would be a vision-related issue, because he can cover very well most of the time.

Does he have small hands? They're definitely not "soft" in the way announcers and scouts describe WRs' hands when they can catch well.

I think it's just something he can't do.

I'm white and can't jump. He's a CB and can't catch.
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Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems?

B Mitch was talking about depth perception last night as well. I would imagine he has been checked but who knows. I am with Insane though, the guy just has hands of bricks.
If he wants the big pay day he is going to have to learn to catch some damn balls.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:38 PM   #4
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Depth perception - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems?

I think this is all mental. They say he catches everything in practice and pre-game but for some reason in the game he just can't do it.

He is just a real good corner who will catch about 1 out of every 7 balls that hit his hands.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:50 PM   #6
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Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems?

He needs "Hypnotherapy" I think it's called...

Pretend it's a roll of toilet paper or a chicken wing,like bobby buchea(spell?) in waterboy...

God,that would be some funny shxx...lol

I can see coach Shanny now" Alright Carlos,I want you to see yourself at your cousins BBQ.....You know that real good casserole your Aunt bobbie makes?...and those delicious Rolls? Pretend this football is one of those rolls!...now go get it boy!!"

Damn...he'd be snatchin' that ball out of the air like Dick "Night Train" Lane.
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Old 10-04-2010, 09:26 PM   #7
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Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems?

How about some guys just have bad hands??

Darrell Green didn't have great hands either. He wasn't as bad as Rogers, but some guys simply can't catch well.
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B Mitch was talking about depth perception last night as well. I would imagine he has been checked but who knows. I am with Insane though, the guy just has hands of bricks.
If he wants the big pay day he is going to have to learn to catch some damn balls.

He might have an astigmatism. I have one and the older I got it was harder and took longer for me to focus on fast moving balls, whether tennis balls, footballs, etc. It isn't hard for me to catch stuff like fade routes playing pick up football, but any quick hit directly to me I have a real hard time focusing in on it. I have a hard time believing it is just his hands, the pick he should have had yesterday was in his hands. He has a hard time focusing on quick objects that are unexpected maybe.
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He is just a real good corner who will catch about 1 out of every 7 balls that hit his hands.
I don't know if I'd put him in the real good category, simply because he still seems to bite a little too much on the double move.
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I think this is all mental. They say he catches everything in practice and pre-game but for some reason in the game he just can't do it.

He is just a real good corner who will catch about 1 out of every 7 balls that hit his hands.
For Rogers, 1 out of 7 is incredibly generous, and even those that he does catch are either balls that were tipped up or his own bobbles. I can't remember the last INT that Rogers caught cleanly. Easily the worst hands I've ever seen for a CB, which is saying something.
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How about some guys just have bad hands??
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Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems?

I want to believe bmitch. I mean in the Houston game didnt it hit him in the head? You just dont miss like that.

The pick last night was stupid easy. Wasn't any zip, he had the perfect read, right in his hands as he was in stride.
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Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems?

I think the depth perception thing is reading too far into it. NFL players are required to pass all sorts of medical testing, and I'm sure vision is one of them. If he does have vision issues, I'm sure we would have heard about it one way or another by now. Either he would have used it as an excuse for dropping all those picks, or the team would have leaked it as an excuse not to pay him big $.

He can cover pretty well, but the ball just bounces off his hands. He doesn't show any other issues on the field that would be symptomatic of depth perception problems. I think he just has iron thumbs.

Regardless, I'm certainly not going to be amongst the folks that continue to make excuses for him. Imagine if he would've hung on to even half of the picks that hit him in the hands? Dude would have his big contract and probably a pro-bowl or two in his pocket, not to mention we would have likely beaten the Seahawks in the playoffs that year...
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Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems?

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How about some guys just have bad hands??

Darrell Green didn't have great hands either. He wasn't as bad as Rogers, but some guys simply can't catch well.
I was about to say. While people are trying to come up with detailed multi-layered armchair diagnosis, the fact of the matter is the guy isn't good at catching.
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For Rogers, 1 out of 7 is incredibly generous, and even those that he does catch are either balls that were tipped up or his own bobbles. I can't remember the last INT that Rogers caught cleanly. Easily the worst hands I've ever seen for a CB, which is saying something.
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