Redskins-Packers, Best and Worst

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We have a lot more than you want to give us credit for, but what's the point? No one is saying we're a flawless team that's going to coast to the Super Bowl and be carrying the Lombardi Trophy. But we are 3-2, first in our division, and winning key games. But again, what's the point. You just piss on everything and ignore what people say anyway.

And recent Super Bowl teams usually dominate in at least one facet of the game, those facets being offense or defense, for the whole year. We're barely keeping afloat everywhere.

I'm not going to be swindled again with the yearly Super Bowl Kool-Aid until I see us stacked with talent like some of the other teams in the league.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

And recent Super Bowl teams usually dominate in at least one facet of the game, those facets being offense or defense, for the whole year. We're barely keeping afloat everywhere.

I'm not going to be swindled again with the yearly Super Bowl Kool-Aid until I see us stacked with talent like some of the other teams in the league.

Forget this imaginary Super Bowl Kool-Aid you speak of. Do you not appreciate at all that we have won back-to-back key games? That we are 2-0 in the division? That these are games that in the past the players, like the fans, would have given up on after the 1st quarter? Do you not see the positives of the season so far? Do you not realize that before you even play in the Super Bowl you have to make the playoffs and to make the playoffs you have to win games? Does none of that even remotely resonate with you?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Forget this imaginary Super Bowl Kool-Aid you speak of. Do you not appreciate at all that we have won back-to-back key games? That we are 2-0 in the division? That these are games that in the past the players, like the fans, would have given up on after the 1st quarter? Do you not see the positives of the season so far? Do you not realize that before you even play in the Super Bowl you have to make the playoffs and to make the playoffs you have to win games? Does none of that even remotely resonate with you?

It's obvious to me they're much better than their sorry ass chokes last season in which utter fail gems like ARE's muffed punt or Suish's chip shot choke left me fuming. That is slowly being snuffed out week to week.

They're still not good enough due to the utter neglect of the lines the past few years. Neither lines dominate the LOS, and can name at least a couple teams that do.

[calia]

A win is a win, and being 3-2 is a lot better than 2-3 (and we could easily have been 4-1). All of this is pretty positive, and this team does seem to have the will to win, which is unquestionably a change from recent years.

What's troubling me most is our O-line and our D (which are obviously related in that the failure to sustain drives puts our D on the field a lot). But we have shown flashes and shown improvement during games and over the course of the season.

Our team D is last -- dead last -- in the league in yards per game. But we're 9th in the league in points given up. At some point, those yards per game are going to translate into some real points (which hasn't been the case in a couple of games we've played -- yesterday's being a good example), and we don't have the offensive power to score tons of points. So unless we can get better at the O-line somehow (blocking schemes, getting the ball out faster, getting our running game going), if our D will continue to give up these kinds of yards, we're going to start coming up short more often than not.

I do trust, however, that we have good coaches who can figure this out within the limits of the talent we have on the team. And winning a game like this one should give us confidence that we really can play with anyone.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by calia

A win is a win, and being 3-2 is a lot better than 2-3 (and we could easily have been 4-1). All of this is pretty positive, and this team does seem to have the will to win, which is unquestionably a change from recent years.

What's troubling me most is our O-line and our D (which are obviously related in that the failure to sustain drives puts our D on the field a lot). But we have shown flashes and shown improvement during games and over the course of the season.

Our team D is last -- dead last -- in the league in yards per game. But we're 9th in the league in points given up. At some point, those yards per game are going to translate into some real points (which hasn't been the case in a couple of games we've played -- yesterday's being a good example), and we don't have the offensive power to score tons of points. So unless we can get better at the O-line somehow (blocking schemes, getting the ball out faster, getting our running game going), if our D will continue to give up these kinds of yards, we're going to start coming up short more often than not.

I do trust, however, that we have good coaches who can figure this out within the limits of the talent we have on the team. And winning a game like this one should give us confidence that we really can play with anyone.

The Saints last year were 25th in total D, but 13th in points allowed. That seems to be the model we are following. We are living by the turnovers, and so far being successful creating and taking advantage of them (mostly). We also have played some very good teams (Rams excluded) and held them in check points wise, this is a better test than last year's 0fers that we ended up looking incompetent against

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Forget this imaginary Super Bowl Kool-Aid you speak of. Do you not appreciate at all that we have won back-to-back key games? That we are 2-0 in the division? That these are games that in the past the players, like the fans, would have given up on after the 1st quarter? Do you not see the positives of the season so far? Do you not realize that before you even play in the Super Bowl you have to make the playoffs and to make the playoffs you have to win games? Does none of that even remotely resonate with you?

Smoot,
You sound a bit like JoeRedskin. Take that however you want

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Smoot,
You sound a bit like JoeRedskin. Take that however you want

So I sound a little like this?

[Monkeydad]

What the hell? Look at this disrespect I spotted on ESPN's fantasy player pages this morning:

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Buster

What the hell? Look at this disrespect I spotted on ESPN's fantasy player pages this morning:

Heads are rolling (to be clear though this is Rotowire.com)

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

And recent Super Bowl teams usually dominate in at least one facet of the game, those facets being offense or defense, for the whole year. We're barely keeping afloat everywhere.

I'm not going to be swindled again with the yearly Super Bowl Kool-Aid until I see us stacked with talent like some of the other teams in the league.

You mean like Dallas??
How does "SirTonyRomo" sound to you?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Hog1

You mean like Dallas??
How does "SirTonyRomo" sound to you?

On offense, Broncos 2008.
On defense, Pittsburgh.

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by Hog1

You mean like Dallas??
How does "SirTonyRomo" sound to you?

I hate them as much as anybody here, but for Romo to come into the NFL as a very low round draft pick and become one of the top 7-10 QBs, arguably the best in the NFCE, I'll take him.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by LavaRnChad

I hate them as much as anybody here, but for Romo to come into the NFL as a very low round draft pick and become one of the top 7-10 QBs, arguably the best in the NFCE, I'll take him.

AGREED, a phenom in his own right and a...steal!!
If he was getting better protection, they would be dangerous

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

And recent Super Bowl teams usually dominate in at least one facet of the game, those facets being offense or defense, for the whole year. We're barely keeping afloat everywhere.

I'm not going to be swindled again with the yearly Super Bowl Kool-Aid until I see us stacked with talent like some of the other teams in the league.

It seems like you are creating a straw dog argument. No one is seriously talking about the Super Bowl - except for you. I'm not sure I get the point of knocking down a non-argument.

So far this year we have been competitive. I personally am going to enjoy that fact for what it is.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It seems like you are creating a straw dog argument. No one is seriously talking about the Super Bowl - except for you. I'm not sure I get the point of knocking down a non-argument.

So far this year we have been competitive. I personally am going to enjoy that fact for what it is.

People are accusing me of not being happy with a win when I'm just keeping stuff in one of the two perspectives that matter. But hey, I could go back to the naive times when I thought we were going to make it after the 2008 season and hopelessly optimistic for every game, because that seems like the only way to not get ostracized.