Does our Front Office make the right decisions?

diehardskin2982 · 10-11-2010, 05:56 PM

Guess who is the leading reciever after week 5... Brandon Lloyd! Lloyd was released before he ever got a true shot here. A player who was said to not be good enough in Washington to get on the field or get any balls thrown his way. Now the number 1 guy in Denver and the NFL (stats wise).

I think Shanahan dropped the ball on Thomas, but only time will tell. My question for discussion is do you think we are on the right path?

I think the skins have a problem. Davis should see more balls come his way. Galloway should not be here at all. I happy we are winning but I do question the motives of staff. What do you think?

mlmdub130 · 10-11-2010, 06:00 PM

too hard to say this early and cutting lloyd was the previous front office. but i would throw roydel williams in there with galloway, neither of them should be in the nfl right now

mooby · 10-11-2010, 06:07 PM

It's easy to second guess our front office when Lloyd blows up in Denver, but this is what, 3 years after we released him? He might just be having a career year or maybe this is a permanent thing. Either way hindsight is always 20/20. Devin Thomas might go on to be a dependable wideout for the Panthers. Or Jimmy Clausen could continue stinking the joint up and that'll be the last we ever hear about him.

Remember when we cut Walt Harris back in the day (I think it was after 07?) When he was with us, he stunk up the joint. He was starting for us back in the day but I always felt the lower he was on the depth chart the better. Well the year after we released him he went to San Fransisco, had like 6 picks and went to the Pro Bowl. And then I think since then he's been injured and he probably retired, or maybe he's with a team but low on the depth chart by now.

My whole point is, at the time I thought cutting him was the right move, and then he went to the Pro Bowl with SF the year after that, but since then hasn't done anything. One man's trash can be another man's treasure. He may have had one good season after we cut him, but at the end of the day nobody knows how things will work out. It's not a matter of whether he's a good player, because anybody can be a good player with the right scheme and talent around them, it's just a matter of circumstance.

With all that being said I don't question the motives of staff when we are winning. Do you think anybody in the locker room was wishing for DT after the win yesterday? It was just a case of Lloyd not being a good fit for us while he was here and since then it's taken him 3 years before now he's getting his shot and proving he's still a good player. I'm not mad we released him, because it wasn't going to work out here.

diehardskin2982 · 10-11-2010, 06:07 PM

Agreed the last front office make knee jerk reactions based on what fans and the media said. Shanny makes moves based on his ego. What happened with DT and Haynesworth should not have gone this far. Not to mention the moves of Parker and Larry Johnson it really make you wonder...

saden1 · 10-11-2010, 06:14 PM

Give me a break...Given the chance I would cut that lazy part time player son of a bitch again and again and again and again.

SmootSmack · 10-11-2010, 06:15 PM

Was this thread just for you to say "I told you so" on Brandon Lloyd?

mlmdub130 · 10-11-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Agreed the last front office make knee jerk reactions based on what fans and the media said. Shanny makes moves based on his ego. What happened with DT and Haynesworth should not have gone this far. Not to mention the moves of Parker and Larry Johnson it really make you wonder...

it really does only time will tell though. i think the most frustrating thing this year is that everything is in house. last year we knew everythign that was going on in there even the stuff we shouldn't have like sellars and cp.

you are right though they are some very questionable moves and shanny has always been a big ego thats ultimitly what lost his job in denver imo. he got into a pissing war w plummer and threw in cutler and never got back on track and now neither shanny or cutler are in denver

diehardskin2982 · 10-11-2010, 06:24 PM

That right Smooty my boy! lol

j/k I wonder sometimes things that happen in Ashburn is because of pride and ego's more than honest evaluation.

SmootSmack · 10-11-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmdub130

it really does only time will tell though. i think the most frustrating thing this year is that everything is in house. last year we knew everythign that was going on in there even the stuff we shouldn't have like sellars and cp.

you are right though they are some very questionable moves and shanny has always been a big ego thats ultimitly what lost his job in denver imo. he got into a pissing war w plummer and threw in cutler and never got back on track and now neither shanny or cutler are in denver

Yeah, heaven forbid they should keep issues in house

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 10-11-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah, heaven forbid they should keep issues in house

What a novel idea..... I think the fans and every other NFL GM should know what we are doing before we do it. This makes for much better forum talk.

Why would this ever be a good idea?

(**sarcasm**)

SirClintonPortis · 10-11-2010, 07:18 PM

We paid him too well. He had no incentive to focus on football back then. Now he does.

Lotus · 10-11-2010, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Guess who is the leading reciever after week 5... Brandon Lloyd! Lloyd was released before he ever got a true shot here. A player who was said to not be good enough in Washington to get on the field or get any balls thrown his way. Now the number 1 guy in Denver and the NFL (stats wise).

I think Shanahan dropped the ball on Thomas, but only time will tell. My question for discussion is do you think we are on the right path?

I think the skins have a problem. Davis should see more balls come his way. Galloway should not be here at all. I happy we are winning but I do question the motives of staff. What do you think?

As for Lloyd, it is not as if he left us and immediately set the NFL on fire elsewhere. There was a gap of more than 2 years when he didn't do much of anything. So my question to you is, how many years should a player (who is not a developing rookie) wastefully occupy a valuable roster spot?

skinsfaninok · 10-11-2010, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Was this thread just for you to say "I told you so" on Brandon Lloyd?

This is what happens when Folks "Drink the Kool Aid" This guy hasn't done shit his whole career and he has 5! Thats right 5 good games and people think he's all of the sudden a SUPERSTAR Lmao..

Daseal · 10-11-2010, 07:36 PM

I held out hope forever on Brandon Lloyd. When it comes to it, sometimes I think situation is just as important for players as skill. Especially at positions like WR. I kinda wish I had a time machine and I could put players on different teams and see how their careers pan out.

Just like work environment for us. If you've been in a work environment that doesn't suit your skills -- then it's had to perform up to your capabilities.

wilsowilso · 10-11-2010, 07:39 PM

What does Brandon Lloyd have to do with Allen and Shanahan?

Absolutely nothing.

:smashfrea

10-11-2010, 05:56 PM	#1
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Does our Front Office make the right decisions? Guess who is the leading reciever after week 5... Brandon Lloyd! Lloyd was released before he ever got a true shot here. A player who was said to not be good enough in Washington to get on the field or get any balls thrown his way. Now the number 1 guy in Denver and the NFL (stats wise). I think Shanahan dropped the ball on Thomas, but only time will tell. My question for discussion is do you think we are on the right path? I think the skins have a problem. Davis should see more balls come his way. Galloway should not be here at all. I happy we are winning but I do question the motives of staff. What do you think? __________________ That got ugly fast

10-11-2010, 06:00 PM	#2
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,238	Re: Does our Front Office make the right decisions? too hard to say this early and cutting lloyd was the previous front office. but i would throw roydel williams in there with galloway, neither of them should be in the nfl right now __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

10-11-2010, 06:07 PM	#3
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: Does our Front Office make the right decisions? It's easy to second guess our front office when Lloyd blows up in Denver, but this is what, 3 years after we released him? He might just be having a career year or maybe this is a permanent thing. Either way hindsight is always 20/20. Devin Thomas might go on to be a dependable wideout for the Panthers. Or Jimmy Clausen could continue stinking the joint up and that'll be the last we ever hear about him. Remember when we cut Walt Harris back in the day (I think it was after 07?) When he was with us, he stunk up the joint. He was starting for us back in the day but I always felt the lower he was on the depth chart the better. Well the year after we released him he went to San Fransisco, had like 6 picks and went to the Pro Bowl. And then I think since then he's been injured and he probably retired, or maybe he's with a team but low on the depth chart by now. My whole point is, at the time I thought cutting him was the right move, and then he went to the Pro Bowl with SF the year after that, but since then hasn't done anything. One man's trash can be another man's treasure. He may have had one good season after we cut him, but at the end of the day nobody knows how things will work out. It's not a matter of whether he's a good player, because anybody can be a good player with the right scheme and talent around them, it's just a matter of circumstance. With all that being said I don't question the motives of staff when we are winning. Do you think anybody in the locker room was wishing for DT after the win yesterday? It was just a case of Lloyd not being a good fit for us while he was here and since then it's taken him 3 years before now he's getting his shot and proving he's still a good player. I'm not mad we released him, because it wasn't going to work out here.

10-11-2010, 06:07 PM	#4
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Does our Front Office make the right decisions? Agreed the last front office make knee jerk reactions based on what fans and the media said. Shanny makes moves based on his ego. What happened with DT and Haynesworth should not have gone this far. Not to mention the moves of Parker and Larry Johnson it really make you wonder... __________________ That got ugly fast

10-11-2010, 06:14 PM	#5
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Does our Front Office make the right decisions? Give me a break...Given the chance I would cut that lazy part time player son of a bitch again and again and again and again. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

10-11-2010, 06:15 PM	#6
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Does our Front Office make the right decisions? Was this thread just for you to say "I told you so" on Brandon Lloyd? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-11-2010, 06:24 PM	#8
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Does our Front Office make the right decisions? That right Smooty my boy! lol j/k I wonder sometimes things that happen in Ashburn is because of pride and ego's more than honest evaluation. __________________ That got ugly fast

10-11-2010, 07:18 PM	#11
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: Does our Front Office make the right decisions? We paid him too well. He had no incentive to focus on football back then. Now he does. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

10-11-2010, 07:36 PM	#14
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Does our Front Office make the right decisions? I held out hope forever on Brandon Lloyd. When it comes to it, sometimes I think situation is just as important for players as skill. Especially at positions like WR. I kinda wish I had a time machine and I could put players on different teams and see how their careers pan out. Just like work environment for us. If you've been in a work environment that doesn't suit your skills -- then it's had to perform up to your capabilities. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

10-11-2010, 07:39 PM	#15
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: Does our Front Office make the right decisions? What does Brandon Lloyd have to do with Allen and Shanahan? Absolutely nothing. :smashfrea

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