Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't buy the 2 minute thing at all. One season in Houston where he played in 1 game, and we're supposed to believe he's better equipped to handle things over a guy like McNabb with his resume? Good one Shanny but I'm selling that one.

Ditto...I'm not buying that shit at all...so WTF did he do it then?

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Ditto...I'm not buying that shit at all...so WTF did he do it then?

Maybe he has seen enough of McNabb playing the way he has. Except for the houston game, McNabb has played like absolute shit this season. We lost yesterday because of the INT he threw to triple coverage...

Shanahan is no dummy and he has just seen enough of McNabb. McNabb isn't losing us games, but he really isnt the reason we are winning them either.

[SolidSnake84]

I thought Donovan was a significant upgrade, but I never believed for a minute that he would be the starter any more than 2 years with his age and injury history...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I thought Donovan was a significant upgrade, but I never believed for a minute that he would be the starter any more than 2 years with his age and injury history...

Yeah, and to be honest, 2 years seemed like a best case scenario. He may have 3-5 years left as a quarterback in this league I'm sure, but we didn't trade a 2nd and 3rd round pick for "a guy who is a quarterback in this league."

We obviously wanted the old, classic Donovan McNabb, but 8 games in, it's clear we're never going to get that player no matter how much money you throw at him. The bigger question is, what will we have if we keep him on a franchise tender, and is he worth it?

We've got 8 games to figure it out, plus a playoff game if we can beat the Eagles out for 2nd in this division.

[T.O.Killa]

You know, this thread is stupid and should be closed. It makes as much sense as pulling McNabb in the last three minutes of the game.

[skinsfan69]

I'm just tired of us bringing in all these older guys for draft picks...it's not just McNabb but Brown looks like it was a bad move, so there's more draft picks. When is someone going to come in here and stop trading away picks for old guys??? I was watching the Pats yesterday and the guy that was filling in for Buck said that NE has two 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks in next year's draft and they're playing ALL YOUNG GUYS on defense. I want someone from their front office here....Oh yeah, KC got him and they're now in 1st place in the AFC West.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm just tired of us bringing in all these older guys for draft picks...it's not just McNabb but Brown looks like it was a bad move, so there's more draft picks. When is someone going to come in here and stop trading away picks for old guys??? I was watching the Pats yesterday and the guy that was filling in for Buck said that NE has two 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks in next year's draft and they're playing ALL YOUNG GUYS on defense. I want someone from their front office here....Oh yeah, KC got him and they're now in 1st place in the AFC West.

It always easy to look good with Brady, for that matter Manning. Both teams are considered the best talent evaluaters in football. Show me how they replace those two, and then I will judge how great they are.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

It always easy to look good with Brady, for that matter Manning. Both teams are considered the best talent evaluaters in football. Show me how they replace those two, and then I will judge how great they are.

Forget Brady. They got rid of every single old guy on their defense. Now they've got all young guys playing on defense and they've lost one game, and they've got a ton of draft picks. Now look at us... We've got a lot of older guys and we're an average to below average team with no draft picks. Something is really wrong here.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm just tired of us bringing in all these older guys for draft picks...it's not just McNabb but Brown looks like it was a bad move, so there's more draft picks. When is someone going to come in here and stop trading away picks for old guys??? I was watching the Pats yesterday and the guy that was filling in for Buck said that NE has two 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks in next year's draft and they're playing ALL YOUNG GUYS on defense. I want someone from their front office here....Oh yeah, KC got him and they're now in 1st place in the AFC West.

I certainly agree with your assessment, there are many more who share in your views.

Using the current formula, it's difficult to envision a blueprint for how the team is going to get younger or better.

[Hog1]

Listening to Trent Dilfer discuss the matter today. He explained that naturally the McNabb benching had nothing to do with Grossman being more adept in the two minute drill (although he did point out that DM is avg at best at game end and in critical situations across his career?) and all about sending DM a message.
Here we are at the Bye and it is an opportune time to work on DM's footwork and motion as the coaching staff has been asking of him. He has apparently...to date refused.
As can readily be seen, DM is not having an....exceptional year and the coaches would like that to improve.
I have no doubt this is essentially true. I am not surprised by this....and don't disagree
AND on the day before election day.....HOG1 supports this message

[hooskins]

Wow, I am sad to say the state of Redskins fans. I can't believe a whopping 17 percent of people here think the benching was the correct move.

This is what happens when Dan calls the shots and makes changes often. Fans expect sudden and stupid change.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Wow, I am sad to say the state of Redskins fans. I can't believe a whopping 17 percent of people here think the benching was the correct move.

This is what happens when Dan calls the shots and makes changes often. Fans expect sudden and stupid change.

If 5/6 think that the benching was wrong, I think that qualifies as a vast majority. Any further over that might just be evidence of group think, and absence of logical thought.

I think the poll shows that a majority of Redskins fans feel their shiny new head coach made a poor, but critical, decision. That's a fairly landmark outcome for a deeply-rooted fanbase such as this one.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Wow, I am sad to say the state of Redskins fans. I can't believe a whopping 17 percent of people here think the benching was the correct move.

This is what happens when Dan calls the shots and makes changes often. Fans expect sudden and stupid change.

Yep.

Fans expecting playoffs this year or next are a little unrealistic based on our roster. We have MAJOR needs in a lot of areas. Only several good drafts can address those needs. Several good drafts.

Remember our shi*** led team has not drafted for quality or quanity over the last 10 years+. It catches up w/ you sooner or later.

[MTK]

Talking about New England is just silly. They had several seasons to turn over that defense, and Brady is well established and has a much better OL.

I think people are forgetting the new regime here came in at a tough time where free agency was very limited and we already had limited picks on hand from Vinny.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Talking about New England is just silly. They had several seasons to turn over that defense, and Brady is well established and has a much better OL.

I think people are forgetting the new regime here came in at a tough time where free agency was very limited and we already had limited picks on hand from Vinny.

Yeah but if the picks were limited and you've already got an old team why give up more picks to bring in more old guys? Sorry but it makes no sense and the smart teams don't make moves like that.