Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

[NYCSkin]

If Shanahan wanted to send DM a message there are much much better ways to do it than the way he did. Aside from the fact that he chose to make this "message" during a very winnable game--which is ridiculous--he made a very shortsighted strategic decision vis-a-vis his credibility with the team.
DM is not a rookie or journeyman. Treat him with some respect. And if you diss him--don't then say something even more horseshit like Grossmann gave us a better chance to win in the last two minutes and he can get two plays in at the same time blah blah blah. It's an inconsistent message, it is not concise in its reasoning, and it does nothing to instill confidence.

As a CEO type coach--Shanahan has to project this confidence and be consistent in a concise manner. The three C's of a CEO. All he did yesterday--based on his own reasoning after the game--was diminish his leadership cred tremendously. That is the most damaging thing about the loss yesterday...

[skinsnut]

This just in....
The Redskins just activated a new QB and they are making him the starter over both McNabb and Grossman since he knows the offense better than both of them

Our new starting QB is Kyle Shanahan!

ingenious!

[SmootSmack]

I don't think he should have been benched (thought I don't hate on Grossman quite the way some others do), however, I've watched that final interception a few dozen times now and for the life of me I can't figure out what McNabb was thinking. He says his hand got it, or the ball got tipped, something like that-still, it was hardly enough to account for such a terrible decision there. He telegraphed the play right into triple coverage. That was a horrible play by McNabb. Absolutely horrible

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think he should have been benched (thought I don't hate on Grossman quite the way some others do), however, I've watched that final interception a few dozen times now and for the life of me I can't figure out what McNabb was thinking. He says his hand got it, or the ball got tipped, something like that-still, it was hardly enough to account for such a terrible decision there. He telegraphed the play right into triple coverage. That was a horrible play by McNabb. Absolutely horrible

it was simply awful. i'd expect that from a rookie, not an 11 year vet.

[skinsnut]

Oh yeah...regarding offensive line play...I said it several weeks ago that rotating olinemen was idiotic...and some said...well, they used to do that in the 60's or something when Guard brought in the play call from the sidelines.

Ask yourself these questions in general...
Is it wise to voluntarily shuffle olinemen every game?
Is it wise to bench a clearly better LG for another?
Is it wise to stick with zone blocking when it is collapsing and you have the players and experience to power rush? (see TD by Williams)

At least Bugel put in a H back AND Sellers when things got bad.

This was ridiculous....and Haslett is dodging a bullet here too.
The Lions adjusted at half time and had a field day moving the ball....the Skins did not adjust any blocking scheme at half time.
Overall...not impressed with coaching...the benching was just idiotic icing on the cake.

And get off McNabb's back....that run he made was amazing.
If we had "dump off" Campbell we'd probably be 2-6...remember, that was the alternative.

[BleedBurgundy]

People are forgetting the other pick six that was called back due to penalty. That's the second week in a row he mind-****ed a telegraphed pass right to an opposing db and was bailed out by the officials.

[hail_2_da_skins]

That was some Jim Zorn sh#t! That was a horrible coaching decision with horrible timing. Rex Grossman is not an option with 2 minutes to go and the game on the line. Only if McNabb is injured. I was so upset, I was stunned! I thought that for sure McNabb was knocked out of the game, not a coaching decision. WTF. The result of the benching was worse than the decision. F'ckn Sexy Rexy fumbling the ball, like he did so many times at Chicago, and giving the Lions a sealed victory. Not even a f'ckn chance. Jim Zorn sh#t!

[hail_2_da_skins]

Ok. I apologize. I had to get that off my chest. I was very upset with McNabb as well. He was having a horrible day. You have 2 minutes on the clock and are down less than a touchdown. All it takes is one good drive to win the game. You have to give your veteran quarterback a chance to redeem himself.

[Hog1]

Note to Skins fans,
There is a reason why Coach Shannihan is the Head Coach. He is a proven winner with a couple fingers SB hardware to back it up. THAT puts him in very elite company.
By virtue that you do not agree with or do not understand the Coaches motivations or decisions is unimportant for the most part. Coaches decisions trumps players, fans, etc......you get the idea.
Did MS make the right decision? Who knows?
BUT, by virtue of his experience level and track record against ours (or until something surfaces, to alter things) Coach has to get the nod....fan hysteria not withstanding.
There IS a reason he gets 49m to do this and we don't?

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Note to Skins fans,
There is a reason why Coach Shannihan is the Head Coach. He is a proven winner with a couple fingers SB hardware to back it up. THAT puts him in very elite company.
By virtue that you do not agree with or do not understand the Coaches motivations or decisions is unimportant for the most part. Coaches decisions trumps players, fans, etc......you get the idea.
Did MS make the right decision? Who knows?
BUT, by virtue of his experience level and track record against ours (or until something surfaces, to alter things) Coach has to get the nod....fan hysteria not withstanding.
There IS a reason he gets 49m to do this and we don't?

You have some valid points...but I for one believe it is in every fans right to question a coaches decision. I do not subscribe to the "blind faith" philosophy, that just because an employee has had past success that they can do no wrong going forward...he was, after all, fired by the same team he had all this success with. I can't think of another HC that got fired by the same team that he led to 2 Superbowl victories.

And the Denver FO has more experience than all of us too.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

You have some valid points...but I for one believe it is in every fans right to question a coaches decision. I do not subscribe to the "blind faith" philosophy, that just because an employee has had past success that they can do no wrong going forward...he was, after all, fired by the same team he had all this success with. I can't think of another HC that got fired by the same team that he led to 2 Superbowl victories.

And the Denver FO has more experience than all of us too.

Nor do I. The point is MS is a professional NFL Head Coach with 2......TWO SB's under his belt.
Much ridiculous BS has been bandied about regarding the motivation and subsequent correctness of benching of one...DM. Until something arises that suggests otherwise....how can the Coach NOT get the benefit of the doubt?

[scowan]

McNabb was probably thinking when Rex got sack/fumbled... "Yep, that's what I've been dealing with all day Rexy." Offensive line play is terrible.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by scowan

McNabb was probably thinking when Rex got sack/fumbled... "Yep, that's what I've been dealing with all day Rexy." Offensive line play is terrible.

You know what nobody has recognized is the Rex mess at the end may have actually humbled Shanny and vindicated DM at the same time. I'm not happy about the loss but I am glad it happened the way it did.

If Rex drives us downfield for a win,
1- DM losses all self confidence as the leader of the Skins.
2- We have a BIGGER QB controversy in the making
3- We are right back to where we were with Campbell. Only it's DM

No thanks!!! After the bye, DM goes back in and all is well.

[Twilbert07]

Report: Vikings release Randy Moss

[over the mountain]

with the way our offense was playing, did anyone realistically think a mcnabb led redskins offense was going to put 6?

the subsitution took me by surprise but given just how bad we looked going into that series, i was thinking why not try it.

i dont see the big deal or the big picture with this. players have bad days, bad matchups, etc. mcnabb and the skins werent moving the ball with consistency.

i would have liked to have seen mcnabb run a true 2 min offense thoo, but i dont think the substitution changed the outcome. i think we still wouldnt have scored but i would have liked to seen mcnabb get his chance. the guy can plod through a game looking mediocre then make a big, maybe game winning play.

if i need 1 big play, i might pick mcnabb over manning or brady for that one play.