Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

You can thank the head coach for materializing this out of thin air.

Not sure I would say it's out of thin air, McNabb has played like shit most of the year. It was only a matter of time before it came to a head.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not sure I would say it's out of thin air, McNabb has played like shit most of the year. It was only a matter of time before it came to a head.

If McNabb has played like shit, how would you describe Rabach's play?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

If McNabb has played like shit, how would you describe Rabach's play?

There's a lot of guys that need to pick it up. Fair or not things always start and end with the QB though.

[SmootSmack]

We should have kept Chase...but seriously folks, Jake Plummer totally sympathizes with McNabb right about now.

But Shanahan tends to be this way, he likes to shake things up at seemingly the oddest times at the QB position. I don't think he will this time namely because I'm not sure he has anyone to turn to. I think he realizes McNabb is the best option. I don't know about the Shanahans not liking the tempo of how McNabb practices, but they certainly have been frustrated with certain elements of his game. Well one, his footwork

Back to Chase, I'm not saying we should have kept him (though we should have) and I'm not saying we should have traded up for Sam Bradford (would have taken him at #4 though if he was there)...but I'm still surprised we didn't draft any future QB in the later rounds.

I didn't see anything really from Beck to think he's the answer

[skinsfaninok]

Cmon guys Shanny isn't going anywhere

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Cmon guys Shanny isn't going anywhere

He's definitely not, the fact it's even being brought up is insanity.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

He's definitely not, the fact it's even being brought up is insanity.

I don't think he is either, but you have to admit this is bizarre. Why all of a sudden turn on your star QB with 2 minutes left in a game? If you wanted to try and light a spark, just say so, no controversy. Shanny is losing credibilty. He is coming off as a hypocrite also. My point with the ex Skins coaches is that they had class and took responsiblity, and either left or got canned, without blaming folks. Shanny wants his player to take responsiblity and walk the walk, then he should be the one leading by example.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I don't think he is either, but you have to admit this is bizarre. Why all of a sudden turn on your star QB with 2 minutes left in a game? If you wanted to try and light a spark, just say so, no controversy. Shanny is losing credibilty. He is coming off as a hypocrite also. My point with the ex Skins coaches is that they had class and took responsiblity, and either left or got canned, without blaming folks. Shanny wants his player to take responsiblity and walk the walk, then he should be the one leading by example.

Damn straight, even Zorn did not give a straight answer regarding his opinion on whether or not JC was a "franchise QB" and instead praised JC's toughness to dodge the question.

[GusFrerotte]

Also if all these things Shanny has said were his true thoughts, why did it take for him to pull Donovan with less than 3 minutes left against the Lions? Shoot name Rex the starter against the Lions, da Bears, Pack, etc, if DM was out of shape and not getting the offense.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Also if all these things Shanny has said were his true thoughts, why did it take for him to pull Donovan with less than 3 minutes left against the Lions? Shoot name Rex the starter against the Lions, da Bears, Pack, etc, if DM was out of shape and not getting the offense.

The "excuse a minute" is coming from the media -- not Shanahan. Everyone has an opinion, or something to add. It's not Shanahan, so chill out.

Your problem is that you believe everything you read, and most of it isn't even coming from Redskins park. Shanahan doesn't think Grossman is the answer, and the 2 minute stuff is just a lame excuse to make the reporter shut up. Like SS has said several times, they were pissed about the pick, McNabb set up the wrong play at least once, and they had enough crap so they pulled him. It was a knee-jerk reaction, and I'm sure looking back Shanahan knows it was a mistake. Over and done. Move on.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

The "excuse a minute" is coming from the media -- not Shanahan. Everyone has an opinion, or something to add. It's not Shanahan, so chill out.

Your problem is that you believe everything you read, and most of it isn't even coming from Redskins park. Shanahan doesn't think Grossman is the answer, and the 2 minute stuff is just a lame excuse to make the reporter shut up. Like SS has said several times, they were pissed about the pick, McNabb set up the wrong play at least once, and they had enough crap so they pulled him. It was a knee-jerk reaction, and I'm sure looking back Shanahan knows it was a mistake. Over and done. Move on.

Well then NFL.com and Yahoo sports are a bunch of liars. My question to you was why didn't Shanny just say he thought a spark was needed and defuse the situation. The whole thing is dumb. He had every right to pull him, but these excuses make it look bad. The last thing we need is controversy, when the staff needs to right what is wrong with the offense.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Well then NFL.com and Yahoo sports are a bunch of liars. My question to you was why didn't Shanny just say he thought a spark was needed and defuse the situation. The whole thing is dumb. He had every right to pull him, but these excuses make it look bad. The last thing we need is controversy, when the staff needs to right what is wrong with the offense.

How do you know a controversy exists? Other than the media suggesting such things. The media is frequently more concerned with being first to break a story whether one exists or not all to often.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Well then NFL.com and Yahoo sports are a bunch of liars. My question to you was why didn't Shanny just say he thought a spark was needed and defuse the situation. The whole thing is dumb. He had every right to pull him, but these excuses make it look bad. The last thing we need is controversy, when the staff needs to right what is wrong with the offense.

Look, Shanahan can say this:

"I'm not happy where we're at offensively," Shanahan said. "I told Donovan, 'You've got a ways to go.' Our offensive line has a ways to go, our receivers, our coaching staff, we're not happy where we're at."

Doesn't sound like excuses to me. But, the media is not satisfied with that answer, so they dig deeper, and Shanahan makes up a lame excuse to get them to shut up. The excuse is a lie, and not the truth, from Shanahan's perspective, IMO. Don't focus on the lies so much.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Look, Shanahan can say this:

"I'm not happy where we're at offensively," Shanahan said. "I told Donovan, 'You've got a ways to go.' Our offensive line has a ways to go, our receivers, our coaching staff, we're not happy where we're at."

Doesn't sound like excuses to me. But, the media is not satisfied with that answer, so they dig deeper, and Shanahan makes up a lame excuse to get them to shut up. The excuse is a lie, and not the truth, from Shanahan's perspective, IMO. Don't focus on the lies so much.

This is kind of my thought as well. I also think that MS rolled the dice in the heat of the moment and tried to spark something and it backfired. Unless McNabb was hurt, I don't and did'nt like the call at the time simply because it was Grossman that got the call, but I recognize the ballsy move and respect Shanny's guts to pull the trigger.
I also feel the need to point out the horrible o-line play. All the sacks and hurries on McNabb were devastating, culminating in the final 2 turnovers. The o-lines failures added up in the end to McNabb's poor decision to throw the pick into triple coverage, ahead by 5 with under 5 mins left, because a: being hit and hurried all day rattled DMc's confidence and poise, and b: under the situation, pocket protection was nil, and DMc tried to force the ball under fire.
Rabach and Lichtensteiger were owned all day for false starts and overwhelmed physically. The play call by Shanahan was knee jerk and premature imo, unless there was indeed a DMc injury, but I get it. I PUT THIS ONE ON THE O-LINE.

[skinsfaninok]

I guarantee you guys mike shanahan will make this team a contender really soon.. Shit we were 4-12 last season, we could double that in one year.