Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

[MTK]

Redskins have long-term concerns about Donovan McNabb - Peter King - SI.com

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Redskins have long-term concerns about Donovan McNabb - Peter King - SI.com

King never says anything positive about Washington. As far as I'm concerned he can **** off.

[MTK]

I thought King's take was pretty fair... did you actually read it?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I thought King's take was pretty fair... did you actually read it?

LOL Yea but still he usually always talks down on us, shit we already know we were a joke before stop saying it every year.

BTW I saw McNabb's press conf today and he seemed ready to prove Shanny wrong, I think this will really fire him up.

[skinsfan69]

So tired of King, Tim Hassleback, Mort and everyone else that is starting to pile on McNabb. Who are their sources? I swear some of these guys make 80% up of the crap they say just to out do one another.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So tired of King, Tim Hassleback, Mort and everyone else that is starting to pile on McNabb. Who are their sources? I swear some of these guys make 80% up of the crap they say just to out do one another.

Probably JLC who essentially guaranteed that Al would be gone at least 3 times this year.

JLC should be fired for being a fraud.

[mike340]

How can we expect McNabb to succeed under the circumstances?

In Philly he read from short to long, here from long to short. WITH THIS OFFENSIVE LINE?
Even when he has time to throw it, he never has space to step into the throw (even if Rabach isn't stepping on his foot!)
The fact that they don't call many intermediate routes I consider an epic fail under the circumstances, especially on 2nd and long. I'm tired of seeing either the attempt to win the lottery (bomb) or the screen pass where the ball arrives at the same time as the unblocked defender.

They've also asked him to change his throwing mechanics.

My old violin teacher always told me that if you don't like the mechanics of the way someone plays, but they get good results out of it, you DON'T change it.
Hopefully the Shanahans will let McNabb throw the ball his way. I wouldn't be surprised if the attempt to change his motion is part of the reason he is generating poorer results.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by mike340

How can we expect McNabb to succeed under the circumstances?

In Philly he read from short to long, here from long to short. WITH THIS OFFENSIVE LINE?
Even when he has time to throw it, he never has space to step into the throw (even if Rabach isn't stepping on his foot!)
The fact that they don't call many intermediate routes I consider an epic fail under the circumstances, especially on 2nd and long. I'm tired of seeing either the attempt to win the lottery (bomb) or the screen pass where the ball arrives at the same time as the unblocked defender.

They've also asked him to change his throwing mechanics.

My old violin teacher always told me that if you don't like the mechanics of the way someone plays, but they get good results out of it, you DON'T change it.
Hopefully the Shanahans will let McNabb throw the ball his way. I wouldn't be surprised if the attempt to change his motion is part of the reason he is generating poorer results.

Your first paragraph sounds ever so famaliar, beginning to be a yearly tradition.

[floridabill50]

Being an avid fan for 50 yrs, the Skins have too many issues besides the play of McNabb. Year in and year out, new coaches come in, new offensive coordinators come in, offensive linemen are still at a premium, and same wide receivers that either dont run good patterns or seldom get open. No matter who comes in, it all starts at the O-line--period. If there is no protection, not even P Manning can be effective. Any time a whole new system is put in place, historically it takes at least half a season just to become familiar with it and how many coaches and systems have the Skins gone thru the last 10 yrs? Until mgmt can find good OFF linemen, be creative with an offensive system, find receivers that can get open, they will continue to be a bad team. In simple terms, why was it that former GM Bobby Beathard always found good talent and nobody since can do that? That is another biggy because the Skins must bring in knowledgeable football people that can find talent instead of spending Danny's millions and think they can make a team from high priced, underachievers. The entire organization since Snyder took over has been a disgrace.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by floridabill50

Being an avid fan for 50 yrs, the Skins have too many issues besides the play of McNabb. Year in and year out, new coaches come in, new offensive coordinators come in, offensive linemen are still at a premium, and same wide receivers that either dont run good patterns or seldom get open. No matter who comes in, it all starts at the O-line--period. If there is no protection, not even P Manning can be effective. Any time a whole new system is put in place, historically it takes at least half a season just to become familiar with it and how many coaches and systems have the Skins gone thru the last 10 yrs? Until mgmt can find good OFF linemen, be creative with an offensive system, find receivers that can get open, they will continue to be a bad team. In simple terms, why was it that former GM Bobby Beathard always found good talent and nobody since can do that? That is another biggy because the Skins must bring in knowledgeable football people that can find talent instead of spending Danny's millions and think they can make a team from high priced, underachievers. The entire organization since Snyder took over has been a disgrace.

Welcome.

You'll find that there are a lot of people here that will agree with your sentiments. I think we're on the right track, because I see Shanahan as a good offensive line talent evaluator, and Bruce Allen has connections to make things happen. I think the Trent Williams pick was indicative of this.

[Dread-Skin]

Who knows, look at McNabb through his career- when has he ever said the wrong thing?? He is overly PC and wont say what it is. Just like when they benched him in Philly for Kolb against Balto. and he watched and smiled as Kolb threw a pick 6 i think it was and stuck up the place. I also noticed when he wears his hat backwards all is well but forwards something is the bother. What a mess. Shanahan also wont be able to speak honest about his intentions.

Ohh, I wanted to add this link which if anyone saw during the game Kyle and McNabb not on the same page.

D.C. Sports Bog - What was Kyle Shanahan saying on the sidelines?

[MTK]

I noticed that during the game, wonder if he ran the wrong play, wrong formation, or what exactly.

[CRedskinsRule]

Looks like he is saying "whose that inside". As most the commenters said, he doesn't look particularly upset.

[MTK]

Yeah probably nothing, in hindsight everyone is jumping over every little thing that went down that day.

[Bushead]

You know what I hope is going on is this:

*this might be somewhat far fetched*

Maybe McNabb isn't exactly doing what he should. When Kyle Shanahan was getting uber-upset on the sidelines, i thought he was saying what play is that. It's been suggested by some "insiders" that McNabb isn't really doing what they want and making some bad decisions. While McNabb is an ultra-professional, maybe he is just doing his own thing a little bit and playing too loose.

Shanahan, instead of coming out and saying McNabb isn't running the plays we are calling and is making terrible decisions, comes up with a complete bull reason as to why he wasn't in there - the two-minute drill. This is so McNabb doesn't get discredited by the media, Shanahan takes all the heat for the decision, and it gives McNabb a golden opportunity to sharpen up with a BYE week without any media scrutiny.

This in turn makes it look like the exact opposite of what's going on: Shanahan is actually really protecting his QB and not throwing him under the bus and telling him get it right or you are out.

Otherwise, this is a cluster-****!