Week 8: Redskins vs. Lions Gameday thread

[GusFrerotte]

Also, this game has me really thinking the McNabb pickup wasn't that much of a improvement over JC. I am not saying Donovan isn't that much better than JC, he is a lot better than JC, but I am really wondering if we were better served keeping those picks and just riding out the storm with JC. Donovan is a quality QB, but damn, with the line probably going to be a sore spot til 2012 realisitically, his effectiveness is going to be truly hampered until then, and by then he could end up a walking injury or just be on the sownward slope of his career.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Also, this game has me really thinking the McNabb pickup wasn't that much of a improvement over JC. I am not saying Donovan isn't that much better than JC, he is a lot better than JC, but I am really wondering if we were better served keeping those picks and just riding out the storm with JC. Donovan is a quality QB, but damn, with the line probably going to be a sore spot til 2012 realisitically, his effectiveness is going to be truly hampered until then, and by then he could end up a walking injury or just be on the sownward slope of his career.

This team is 2-6 with JC at QB and the season was over 2 weeks ago. This team is 4-4 and still a lot to play for.

[Bushead]

Originally Posted by irish

This team is 2-6 with JC at QB and the season was over 2 weeks ago. This team is 4-4 and still a lot to play for.

I agree. McNabb has made some great plays at key moments. If you think McNabb is getting sacked a lot, Jason would be on his back even more WHILE just checking down way too quick -- at least we have a big play possibility this year.

I'm very upset with Shan, but I'm not going to complain and throw any coach under the bus. I want consistency, and I want him to have his three years to build before I complain.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by irish

This team is 2-6 with JC at QB and the season was over 2 weeks ago. This team is 4-4 and still a lot to play for.

Yeah I agree, but my point is we are not going to win if Donovan is stuck with this line and to properly rebuild it, you might not see a decent line til 2012 or beyond. By that time Donovan is over the hill or a walking injury due to the lack of protection. Also in the scheme of things if we went 2-6 or 4-4 before the bye, what difference does that make? 4-12 or 8-8 isn't going to get you invited to the big playoff party. THe loss of two picks in 2011 set us back a bit for rebuilding the offensive line.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Yeah I agree, but my point is we are not going to win if Donovan is stuck with this line and to properly rebuild it, you might not see a decent line til 2012 or beyond. By that time Donovan is over the hill or a walking injury due to the lack of protection. Also in the scheme of things if we went 2-6 or 4-4 before the bye, what difference does that make? 4-12 or 8-8 isn't going to get you invited to the big playoff party. THe loss of two picks in 2011 set us back a bit for rebuilding the offensive line.

This organization has given away alot more pick and gotten a lot less in return than they have for the 2 pick they gave for DM. This year in the NFC 8-8 might just do the trick and who know they could get luck and get to 9-7, with DM they actually have a shot at getting lucky, with JC they had no shot at anything.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by irish

This organization has given away alot more pick and gotten a lot less in return than they have for the 2 pick they gave for DM. This year in the NFC 8-8 might just do the trick and who know they could get luck and get to 9-7, with DM they actually have a shot at getting lucky, with JC they had no shot at anything.

How do you figure? DMc hasn't exactly set the earth on fire. My point isn't that Donovan is bad, but the team around him is substandard, and by the time the FO does build a true contender Donovan might be used up or broken up. Did you think Donovan will get lucky with only two bona fide wideouts and a crappy line? He gives us a better chance at winning close games yeah, but is he still going to be effective in 2012?

[irish]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

How do you figure? DMc hasn't exactly set the earth on fire. My point isn't that Donovan is bad, but the team around him is substandard, and by the time the FO does build a true contender Donovan might be used up or broken up. Did you think Donovan will get lucky with only two bona fide wideouts and a crappy line? He gives us a better chance at winning close games yeah, but is he still going to be effective in 2012?

I agree that the team is substandard but the Skins are much improved at the 2 most important things in football, head coach and QB. These 2 pieces have made a substandard team that likely should be 2-6 into a 4-4 team that is still in the hunt. Its a week to week league and there's no telling what might happen in the next game. This team is far from dead.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by irish

This team is 2-6 with JC at QB and the season was over 2 weeks ago. This team is 4-4 and still a lot to play for.

JC's Last 2 weeks (with absolutely NO WRs...Louis Murphy was all he had and he's hurt):

Week 7 - 12/20, 204 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT....WIN 59-14
Week 8 - 15/27, 310 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT...WIN 33-3

Just saying.

Of course, today with McNabb/Grossman was what JC had to deal with all of last year...no QB would have won with this, except maybe Peyton Manning.



I expect this benching to fire Donovan up, he'll light the Eagles up in 2 weeks. It worked that way when he was benched by Reid.