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Old 11-06-2010, 06:52 PM   #1
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Did I ever say Michelle Obama was a bad person or did nothing charitable or beneficial? How come I never "point out" her good deeds? Why would I? Every first lady develops some sort of agenda to work with military families, or sick kids, or schools, etc etc etc. And that's great. But why on earth would I go out of my way to point that out? Sorry, I just thought it was a funny question on your part.

Look, Obama has been perceived by many as out of touch, and it's for reasons that I pointed out. Good for them for having millions. They should be able to enjoy that money. But don't do it so overtly while telling Americans to "tighten their belts." Given the financial hard times so many Americans are experiencing, maybe they should be a little more, um, I guess conservative (I know, lol). By that I mean not spending a girls week in Europe shopping, or wearing $300 shoes in the garden, or renting compounds for lavish week-long jaunts in Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard, or taking the whole family to visit the Taj-Mahal. Perception is reality.

And please don't respond with an answer pointing out how many vacations W took.
Me responding with how many vacations W took is just as tired as you pouncing on everything Obama does that you perceive to be out of touch.
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Old 11-06-2010, 07:18 PM   #2
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Me responding with how many vacations W took is just as tired as you pouncing on everything Obama does that you perceive to be out of touch.
Just to clear the air.....are you saying the O'bama's squanderous ways are acceptable if George was squanderous as well?
OR are you saying that both are discustingly negligent and squanderous?
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:23 PM   #3
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Just to clear the air.....are you saying the O'bama's squanderous ways are acceptable if George was squanderous as well?
OR are you saying that both are discustingly negligent and squanderous?
I like your point. Just like George Bush gave Bailouts, passed Stimulus bill, and his in last month of presidency, 650,000 jobs were lost and umemployment hit a twenty year high 7.6%. Just want make sure we understand 8 years of Republican Economic Policy pushed our economy into its worst era since the great depression.

Its really funny to read this thread and see this crap being spewed about jobs, econonmy, big business hoarding cash like every american household, presidential vacations, etc. And how people think that this is a new problem.

Its really sad. Ive heard no tangible plan from either side on how we get this under control.

Its also funny that people want to cut government and blame it, but also look to it to solve its problem....thats hilarious
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:57 AM   #4
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I like your point. Just like George Bush gave Bailouts, passed Stimulus bill, and his in last month of presidency, 650,000 jobs were lost and umemployment hit a twenty year high 7.6%. Just want make sure we understand 8 years of Republican Economic Policy pushed our economy into its worst era since the great depression.

Its really funny to read this thread and see this crap being spewed about jobs, econonmy, big business hoarding cash like every american household, presidential vacations, etc. And how people think that this is a new problem.

Its really sad. Ive heard no tangible plan from either side on how we get this under control.

Its also funny that people want to cut government and blame it, but also look to it to solve its problem....thats hilarious
If you look back in this thread I said I'm happy with a lame duck congress for the next two years.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:11 AM   #5
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If you look back in this thread I said I'm happy with a lame duck congress for the next two years.
Im sure you do. Im also sure you stand with a drug addict Rush Limbaugh who hopes this president fail, because you enjoy seeing families across this county struggling, losing everything in a Bush-led trickle down fail economy.

Is that fair to assume as well?
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Im sure you do. Im also sure you stand with a drug addict Rush Limbaugh who hopes this president fail, because you enjoy seeing families across this county struggling, losing everything in a Bush-led trickle down fail economy.

Is that fair to assume as well?
No I hate to see people fail but I also hate to see a trillion dollars spent with little to no results and yes I hope Obama fails to pass any more of his agenda. By the way I don't listen to Rush but it seems that you might.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:42 PM   #7
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Im sure you do. Im also sure you stand with a drug addict Rush Limbaugh who hopes this president fail, because you enjoy seeing families across this county struggling, losing everything in a Bush-led trickle down fail economy.

Is that fair to assume as well?
So you say this but you also say this:

Bottom line who expects "real change"...Nothing from from the tea party or republicans or democrats said anything they havent said before...cut taxes, cut spending, blah blah blah

I would like to see the state, county and federal government shrunk...I mean real cuts, like Great Britian recently did...I say start with the military and defense budget cut that15-20%, cut welfare 10%, federal salaries freeze and re examination of who makes what and make cuts. On a local level cut emergency services, police and fire....anybody familiar with "overtime" and pay scale knows police and fire is an effing rackett, alot of people sitting on their ass working 3 days on, 4 days off at incredible pay rates

So what do you want more goverment or less.
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:17 PM   #8
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So you say this but you also say this:

Bottom line who expects "real change"...Nothing from from the tea party or republicans or democrats said anything they havent said before...cut taxes, cut spending, blah blah blah

I would like to see the state, county and federal government shrunk...I mean real cuts, like Great Britian recently did...I say start with the military and defense budget cut that15-20%, cut welfare 10%, federal salaries freeze and re examination of who makes what and make cuts. On a local level cut emergency services, police and fire....anybody familiar with "overtime" and pay scale knows police and fire is an effing rackett, alot of people sitting on their ass working 3 days on, 4 days off at incredible pay rates

So what do you want more goverment or less.
I want smarter government, less in many places, but I want regulation in other places. The last couple years the Economic crisis and Environmental (oil rig, spill) crisis states Big Business refuses to do the right thing and follow the rules in place. Unfortunately lot of why this occurs is ethics, this country is so damn fat it continues to stuff its face and wont push away from the table. Blah blah blah...

Anyways a little article today from my neighborhood and the local government which references a little rant of mine above: Audit reveals Henrico's top overtime spenders - NBC12 News, Weather Sports, Traffic, and Programming Guide for Richmond, VA |
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:23 AM   #9
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Me responding with how many vacations W took is just as tired as you pouncing on everything Obama does that you perceive to be out of touch.
Do I really "pounce on everything?" Come on.

If I actually pounced on everything I could you'd be far more sick of me than you are.

But for fun, I'll say it's good to see that the teleprompter-in-chief will make it's debut in India's parliament. Lol.

Obama to use teleprompter for Hindi speech - Hindustan Times
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Do I really "pounce on everything?" Come on.

If I actually pounced on everything I could you'd be far more sick of me than you are.

But for fun, I'll say it's good to see that the teleprompter-in-chief will make it's debut in India's parliament. Lol.

Obama to use teleprompter for Hindi speech - Hindustan Times
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:09 AM   #11
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Do I really "pounce on everything?" Come on.

If I actually pounced on everything I could you'd be far more sick of me than you are.

But for fun, I'll say it's good to see that the teleprompter-in-chief will make it's debut in India's parliament. Lol.

Obama to use teleprompter for Hindi speech - Hindustan Times
Haha...you really are enjoying this, aren't you? I'll have to check out the speech, I bet is perrrrfect.
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