***2010-2011 College Football Thread***

[12thMan]

So basically the SEC is invincible.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

So basically the SEC is invincible.

Yeah, he really plays to the SEC stereotypical fan...reason and logic out the door. Gotta love the passion

Quake, how would you like to see Ole Less Miles don the Dallas Star? You think he coach there? Would you break your alligence?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yeah, he really plays to the SEC stereotypical fan...reason and logic out the door. Gotta love the passion

Quake, how would you like to see Ole Less Miles don the Dallas Star? You think he coach there? Would you break your alligence?

I play the stereotypical fan?? How?? I give props when necessary and I really don't care if he coaches Dallas. I'm not a big Les Miles fan anyways. The problem is while the fact that the SEC is the top conference in college FB, you wanna say that the pac 10 is better at the top. Oregon could beat any SEC team and we probably will see Oregon vs Auburn. But outside of Oregon the pac-10 isn't as good. Its just not. The numbers back me up so I don't see how I'm not using logic.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

So basically the SEC is invincible.

I don't remember saying that but if that's how you feel I'm not gonna argue with you.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I don't remember saying that but if that's how you feel I'm not gonna argue with you.

I'm not trying to argue, but you guys just have that air about you.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm not trying to argue, but you guys just have that air about you.

What air? I enjoy this conversation mainly because you guys are sticking to your guns.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm not trying to argue, but you guys just have that air about you.

To put it more succinctly, you ---and by you, I'm referring to you and GMScud (The guy won't give me an inch on Obama, so I have to find an opening where I can get it.) -- tend to ascribe success and high national rankings of smaller or lesser known programs as a fluke, dumb luck, weak scheduling, an off year in the SEC or a combination of the four.

But when it comes to anyalizing the SEC, you seem to have the best talent in the land, the best coaches, most loyal fans, and unmatched football prowess vs the rest of college football. Now considering that the SEC have been kicking ass and taking names for the past four years, I think that is a sometimes fair assessment. But it's the, what I perceive to be, belittling of inferior programs and the sense of entitelment that tends to surround SEC programs which leads me to think this.

Hey, I have no real problem with SEC dominance. They produce great NFL caliber players and make pretty good Redskins!

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

To put it more succinctly, you ---and by you, I'm referring to you and GMScud (The guy won't give me an inch on Obama, so I have to find an opening where I can get it.) -- tend to ascribe success and high national rankings of smaller or lesser known programs as a fluke, dumb luck, weak scheduling, an off year in the SEC or a combination of the four.

But when it comes to anyalizing the SEC, you seem to have the best talent in the land, the best coaches, most loyal fans, and unmatched football prowess vs the rest of college football. Now considering that the SEC have been kicking ass and taking names for the past four years, I think that is a sometimes fair assessment. But it's the, what I perceive to be, belittling of inferior programs and the sense of entitelment that tends to surround SEC programs which leads me to think this.

Hey, I have no real problem with SEC dominance. They produce great NFL caliber players and make pretty good Redskins!

To be fair, I ascribe the SEC's success to winning (and recruiting dominance) more than anything else. I mean, they've won 4 straight national titles and 6 of the last 10.

I'm not sure I've ever poo-pooed smaller/lesser known programs' high rankings as a fluke, dumb luck, or a down year for the SEC. However when you look at schools like Boise St, how can you not consider strength of schedule? This year they beat a vastly overrated Va Tech (the ACC is garbage this season), and a .500 Oregon State team. That's it. They are a great program to be sure, and they've proven in the past they can hang with teams like Oklahoma (thanks to gadget plays, but hey, a W is a W), but SOS is important. You look at Boise State's schedule... I mean... pretty much all of those schools would lose to SEC bottom feeders.

A one loss team that runs the gauntlet of an SEC (or this year, a PAC 10) schedule is more deserving of a shot at the title than a team that plays nobody.

That said, get a damn playoff system. The BCS is a joke.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by GMScud

To be fair, I ascribe the SEC's success to winning (and recruiting dominance) more than anything else. I mean, they've won 4 straight national titles and 6 of the last 10.

I'm not sure I've ever poo-pooed smaller/lesser known programs' high rankings as a fluke, dumb luck, or a down year for the SEC. However when you look at schools like Boise St, how can you not consider strength of schedule? This year they beat a vastly overrated Va Tech (the ACC is garbage this season), and a .500 Oregon State team. That's it. They are a great program to be sure, and they've proven in the past they can hang with teams like Oklahoma (thanks to gadget plays, but hey, a W is a W), but SOS is important. You look at Boise State's schedule... I mean... pretty much all of those schools would lose to SEC bottom feeders.

A one loss team that runs the gauntlet of an SEC (or this year, a PAC 10) schedule is more deserving of a shot at the title than a team that plays nobody.

That said, get a damn playoff system. The BCS is a joke.

C'mon now! They had an inexperienced defense that only returned 3 of 11 starters from last season. Despite that they still held their own against Boise State and yes, lost a game they should have won to JMU. They haven't lost since the loss to JMU and have improved just about every week. The team finishes in the top just about every year and are on pace to possibly do it again (they do need help though). They are far from overrated. Your just pissed because they are rated higher than Florida right now.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Angry

C'mon now! They had an inexperienced defense that only returned 3 of 11 starters from last season. Despite that they still held their own against Boise State and yes, lost a game they should have won to JMU. They haven't lost since the loss to JMU and have improved just about every week. The team finishes in the top just about every year and are on pace to possibly do it again (they do need help though). They are far from overrated. Your just pissed because they are rated higher than Florida right now.

Hes just upset the SEC East is a shit pile and on the same level of play as the ACC. Look at the current standings? 5-3 leads that division. Sorry SEC is down this year. Its comical how overly sensative these guys are...lol

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Angry

C'mon now! They had an inexperienced defense that only returned 3 of 11 starters from last season. Despite that they still held their own against Boise State and yes, lost a game they should have won to JMU. They haven't lost since the loss to JMU and have improved just about every week. The team finishes in the top just about every year and are on pace to possibly do it again (they do need help though). They are far from overrated. Your just pissed because they are rated higher than Florida right now.

LOL. If you think for one second I am "pissed" about anything that has to do with Va Tech football, you're kidding yourself. Frankly the only thing I care about on a yearly basis in the ACC is that Florida State loses to my Gators (which has become an annual tradition nowadays).

I call them overrated because it seems like almost every year they are in the preseason discussion as a national title contender, and they don't ever deliver. They haven't had a QB worth a damn since Vick. And don't forget how awful the ACC is this year.