Redskins and McNabb Agree to Contract Extension

[skinsfan69]

The Eagles are not stupid. They knew. Why did they hang on to Michael Vick and insist on not trading him? I personally think they saw how talented the guy is and decided to really coach him up and see if he would buy in. Once they saw that, they had to reason to keep McNabb. Who would think after this trade we still have the worst QB in the division.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The Eagles are not stupid. They knew. Why did they hang on to Michael Vick and insist on not trading him? I personally think they saw how talented the guy is and decided to really coach him up and see if he would buy in. Once they saw that, they had to reason to keep McNabb. Who would think after this trade we still have the worst QB in the division.

I really don't think they saw this coming though, not to this degree. They were ready to move forward with Kolb as their starter, I think they are genuinely surprised at how quickly Vick has grasped the offense and taken to the coaching they've given him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The Eagles are not stupid. They knew. Why did they hang on to Michael Vick and insist on not trading him? I personally think they saw how talented the guy is and decided to really coach him up and see if he would buy in. Once they saw that, they had to reason to keep McNabb. Who would think after this trade we still have the worst QB in the division.

*Raises hand* Well, there's always Kitna.

Look, back in April, I thought it would be dumb to suggest that the Eagles would willingly trade McNabb and somehow not have a plan to perform better at quarterback than the guy they traded. It wouldn't have made any sense.

I don't think they were in any way expecting Vick to be that guy, but they of course knew what they were trading us. I think it was the combination of the lack of weapons on the roster that made them feel safe in dealing him here, as well as a declining skill set. I also think the Eagles deserve some credit for not being overconcerned with their record against us this year. McNabb went 1-1 against Vick this year, which considering the talent discrepancy between the teams, has to be a win for the Redskins. But because we're not at this point competitive with the Eagles at the top of the division, I think they deserve credit for not blowing up a home loss to their former QB into something worse than it was.

We beat them fair and square on their home turf. But after beating up on the Colts and us in consecutive weeks, and sporting the best offense in professional football, can anyone still criticize them for trading McNabb when they did? Even though one of their three losses came against him? No, I think they are safe from criticism at this point.

[BleedBurgundy]

McNabb wasn't responsible for playing defense last night. He threw some picks, but we were getting destroyed, you have to take some chances. I actually have no issue with the way he played last night. Gameplanning however... you give up a 88 yd bomb on the first play of the game... then call three straight interior running plays? Behind the worst interior o-line in the league, after the bye week when you had 2 weeks to get ready? REALLY?

[GTripp0012]

The biggest SINGLE reason we lost was not converting a third down in the game. Did convert one fourth down though.

That doesn't mean we would have won if we had an average conversion rate. We obviously would not have. Too much of an offensive onslaught by the Eagles. But the biggest reason the Eagles could score quickly and STILL kill us in time of possession were due to the offensive struggles.

[44ever]

I'm probably one of the Skins biggest critics on these boards but, McNabb is not the problem with the Skins. Thats just not even realistic at all. Lets keep in mind that Jackson outran our entire D. If McNabb had a receiver like that say T.O., Moss, We may have been able to have a shootout. He also had a rookie unblocking RB to depend on to relive some pressure and the same old O line laying down the red carpet for the D.

He made some very impressive throws last night. We have a lot to be disappointed about but lets keep some things in perspective. Whens the last time this team has seen 28 points? Especially against a team like the Eagles.

The extension was a good move.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by 44ever

I'm probably one of the Skins biggest critics on these boards but, McNabb is not the problem with the Skins. Thats just not even realistic at all. Lets keep in mind that Jackson outran our entire D. If McNabb had a receiver like that say T.O., Moss, We may have been able to have a shootout. He also had a rookie unblocking RB to depend on to relive some pressure and the same old O line laying down the red carpet for the D.

He made some very impressive throws last night. We have a lot to be disappointed about but lets keep some things in perspective. Whens the last time this team has seen 28 points? Especially against a team like the Eagles.

The extension was a good move.

i'm not really sure how you can say mcnabb is not the problem with the skins. you can say he isn't the only problem but you can not say he isn't one. his completion percentage is garbage and he seems to be throwing more in the dirt this year that he did last year. granted he gives us a better chance to win than with campbell but it's not by much.

and everyone who keeps saying well we scored 28 points when was the last time that happened? when was the last time a team was up on us 28-0 in the first quarter, not shit we are gonna score some points cause they are gonna play soft all game

this game was wayyy uglier than the giants game last year, and to have it done in primetime again is just a huge dagger. last night looked like a legit playoff contender beating the crap out of a bottom feeder, which is where we are right now, it's gonna take some time to turn this around and from all accounts no one evens knows what direction we are headed yet, and thats the scariest part

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i'm not really sure how you can say mcnabb is not the problem with the skins. you can say he isn't the only problem but you can not say he isn't one. his completion percentage is garbage and he seems to be throwing more in the dirt this year that he did last year. granted he gives us a better chance to win than with campbell but it's not by much.

and everyone who keeps saying well we scored 28 points when was the last time that happened? when was the last time a team was up on us 28-0 in the first quarter, not shit we are gonna score some points cause they are gonna play soft all game

this game was wayyy uglier than the giants game last year, and to have it done in primetime again is just a huge dagger. last night looked like a legit playoff contender beating the crap out of a bottom feeder, which is where we are right now, it's gonna take some time to turn this around and from all accounts no one evens knows what direction we are headed yet, and thats the scariest part

My biggest issues is that I feel that once again we seem to be patching things up and not committing to full blown rebuilding. But as I said in a previous post, I don't think MS is the type of coach that would build up a team from scratch. While I have a glimmer of hope, I just find it hard to see this team doing enough offensively to get us anywhere (and not have any defensive eggs like the one we laid last night).

[GTripp0012]

And if you think that the original plan for the Eagles at quarterback was flawed, take a look at Kolb's numbers and compare them to McNabb's. They were right on that account as well, and then they certainly appear to have been validated on their decision to move forward with Michael Vick.

It would be crazy to say that McNabb was everything that was wrong the Eagles, and that's a complete sports talk radio argument anyway. McNabb was always good enough for them, at least compared to what he has been here. But it's like the Chargers deciding to not resign Brees: they ended up finding an option better than they could have ever dreamed the original guy becoming. It's good fortune, but also good management.

[mredskins]

I just think it is hilarious how we spent so much on this guy yesterday and they come out and just lay a huge f--king egg. The sh-t I am taking from other fans today is unreal, the Redskins are f--king awful POS team.

The faces have changed again but the sh-t stays the same.

[mredskins]

Also why sign this contract now???? Why not try to make a play for Vick in 2011??? So f--king stupid.

I honestly have never been so f--king pissed at this team in my life.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Also why sign this contract now???? Why not try to make a play for Vick in 2011??? So f--king stupid.

I honestly have never been so f--king pissed at this team in my life.

Because the Eagles were the only team to give Vick a shot and now that he paid off, they will pay him anything he wants in 2011 to keep him there. Vick is a Eagle for the rest of his productive career.

Why sign the contract now? Because if we didn't, then the he would be looking ahead to being a Cardinal next season. If we are going to get the best of McNabbs talent then we needed to make his presence here concrete.

He is now the true leader of this team. I don't know what some of you guys expected last night. Some of us seen this kind of loss coming so clearly. I honestly did not expect us to score 28. I thought we would only score 17. On the flip side I predicted the Eagles to score 42, they almost did that by half time.

Have you been watching Vick play this season? Cmon.

28 points is usually enough to win a game, we say that the O-line stinks, yet McNabb squeezed 28 from behind it. Not many QB's could do that.

We need a faster Defense and a different scheme to compete against teams like Philly. We are just not built for the 3-4 yet. Backfield needs more consistency, Where the hell was Hall last night? Everybody had hands like rubber. We had some chances at some picks last night.

Other things I look at is the way we tried to rush Torain and Banks back into the game. Neither of them should have been in uniform last night. We got lucky with Banks IMO (hopefully). Not so much with Torain.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Also why sign this contract now???? Why not try to make a play for Vick in 2011??? So f--king stupid.

I honestly have never been so f--king pissed at this team in my life.

Like Philly is going to let him walk.....

[SFREDSKIN]

Here's McNabb's contract breakdown:

Source: Donovan McNabb due just $3.75M if cut after '10 - ESPN

Here is how the rest of the full deal breaks down, according to an NFLPA source:

• 2010: $3.5 million signing bonus/$250,000 if active eight games

• 2011: $10 million option bonus/$2.5 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2012: $12.75 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2013: $13 million salary/$1.5 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2014: $13.75 million salary/$3 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2015: $13.55 million salary/$2.25 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Here's McNabb's contract breakdown:

Source: Donovan McNabb due just $3.75M if cut after '10 - ESPN

Here is how the rest of the full deal breaks down, according to an NFLPA source:

• 2010: $3.5 million signing bonus/$250,000 if active eight games

• 2011: $10 million option bonus/$2.5 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2012: $12.75 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2013: $13 million salary/$1.5 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2014: $13.75 million salary/$3 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

• 2015: $13.55 million salary/$2.25 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives

Am I reading into things or is it interesting that this year is the only year without "$2 million possible playoff incentives", Does that imply in any way that the Skins acknowledge this was a transition year, and not one with strong playoff potential?