LOL @ Redskins

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Haynesworth. I like the guy. He's as valuable asset. But... Last night....

Just pointing something out and I dunno if anyone else heard/saw this... Trevor Maitich commented on the post-game that the play where Vick had 8 seconds to run around in the pocket near our goal line Haynesworth made penetration into the pocket, fell on his face... and stayed there, while Orakpo is busting his balls trying to get away from the o-lineman and get to Vick.

I don't know if anyone actually saw that on the replay but if that's any sign to the type of effort the Skins were putting into the Monday night game... That's absolutely friggin inexcusable.

http://www.thewarpath.net/759522-post781.html

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

http://www.thewarpath.net/759522-post781.html

The more I study this play the more I see. Carter was double teamed at one point and then wreaked #71 and still almost got to Vick. The only guy standing in his way was #78 assigned to AH but was able to leave AH on the ground and pick up the block on Carter.

Watch Carter throw #71 to the ground like a little bitch and how fast he gets after Vick. I like that!!!

Thanks for posting this clip SS

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Haynesworth. I like the guy. He's as valuable asset. But... Last night....

Just pointing something out and I dunno if anyone else heard/saw this... Trevor Maitich commented on the post-game that the play where Vick had 8 seconds to run around in the pocket near our goal line Haynesworth made penetration into the pocket, fell on his face... and stayed there, while Orakpo is busting his balls trying to get away from the o-lineman and get to Vick.

I don't know if anyone actually saw that on the replay but if that's any sign to the type of effort the Skins were putting into the Monday night game... That's absolutely friggin inexcusable.

I think I have to disagree with DM as to "we cannot win without AH".
At the FIRST POSSIBLE moment that makes sense...
Unload his problematic, poisenous, lazy ass.
I'm over him

[DCtoAZ]

what a frustrating game to watch ... i was so pumped up ... what a joke we are in primetime .. this was the WORST NFL GAME IN MNF HISTORY .. made the "swinging gate" game from last year seem good

[Zorny]

We will rebound next week against the Titans. Then the players will act like they won the superbowl and get their butts handed to them the following week. Different coach and players, same sorry ass results....

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Zorny

We will rebound next week against the Titans. Then the players will act like they won the superbowl and get their butts handed to them the following week. Different coach and players, same sorry ass results....

Name a couple studs the Titans have. Not Randy Moss. I know of a couple.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Name a couple studs the Titans have. Not Randy Moss. I know of a couple.

Might be adding Larry Johnson

[Redskin Warrior]

1. Fire Hastlett hire Wade Phillips or Mike Zimmerman 2 real good 3-4 defensive coordinators
2. Draft 1 of the top 3 WR prospects A.J. Green (UGA), Alshon Jefferies (SC) or Julio Jones (ALA)
3. Draft O-line badly especially C Rabach is garbage and get younger everywhere we can

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

1. Fire Hastlett hire Wade Phillips or Mike Zimmerman 2 real good 3-4 defensive coordinators
2. Draft 1 of the top 3 WR prospects A.J. Green (UGA), Alshon Jefferies (SC) or Julio Jones (ALA)
3. Draft O-line badly especially C Rabach is garbage and get younger everywhere we can

Nope, with this line you have no choice but to go line with your first 2-3 picks, unless you want to extend the agony another 2 seasons. There are a bunch of Big Ten Wrs coming out that can be productive for us such as Stonum from Michigan or Sanzenbacher from OSU( not sure if he is a SR). Stay away from MSU guys, as they come from from the Detroit PSL leagues or MI schools in general, which have sucked talentwise since the mid the 80's. IF any Wrs from Oregon or Stanford are coming out I would give them a look. They can be had during the 2nd-4th rounds.

As for the 3-4, you are better off scraping it, as you have 4-3 personnel anyway. Maybe we can salvage AH that way. We also will not have to worry about having as many LBs on the roster.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

1. Fire Hastlett hire Wade Phillips or Mike Zimmerman 2 real good 3-4 defensive coordinators
2. Draft 1 of the top 3 WR prospects A.J. Green (UGA), Alshon Jefferies (SC) or Julio Jones (ALA)
3. Draft O-line badly especially C Rabach is garbage and get younger everywhere we can

Watching the Bengals/Colts game, made me wonder what our old 4-3 defense would have looked like under Mike Zimmer.

[SFREDSKIN]

The only way the Redskins will be successful is to clean house of the type of players with their own agendas (Haynesworth, Landry, Hall) old players (Fletcher, Portis, Carter, Phillips, Sellers, Holliday, Galloway, Rabach) and rebuild with the core of high character, smart players (Orakpo, Alexander, Cooley,Williams, McNabb).

I look at the Redskins like the SF Giants baseball team, they got rid of Barry Bonds (own agenda, cancer to the team) and drafted young solid pitchers (Lincecum, Cain, Baumgarner) surrounded them with a hard working mix of young and veteran players that were not flashy, but smart. The final result is that they grew and played as team and won the world series. The same needs to happen here, bite the bullet and clean house.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

1. Fire Hastlett hire Wade Phillips or Mike Zimmerman 2 real good 3-4 defensive coordinators
2. Draft 1 of the top 3 WR prospects A.J. Green (UGA), Alshon Jefferies (SC) or Julio Jones (ALA)
3. Draft O-line badly especially C Rabach is garbage and get younger everywhere we can

I couldn't disagree more. Hastlett isn't the reason we are getting absolutely gashed every week. You have to have the players, and we dont, bottom line.
We only have a 1st, no 2nd, can't remember if we have 3rd, or 4th. We need to draft offensive lineman. Stop going after the flashy picks. The WR dont amount to shit if the QB is running for his life every play.
Rabach is as good as the two guards beside him. Which neither one of them is worth a damn. So it isn't all on Rabach. the whole unit sucks.
We have zero identity upfront. I am wondering if these coaches can find a way to maximize the guys up front and call to their strenghts, because what ever they are doing isn't working for crap. Quicker 3 step drops, more slants, some more screens. Something to get the ball out of McNabbs hands quicker.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I couldn't disagree more. Hastlett isn't the reason we are getting absolutely gashed every week. You have to have the players, and we dont, bottom line.
We only have a 1st, no 2nd, can't remember if we have 3rd, or 4th. We need to draft offensive lineman. Stop going after the flashy picks. The WR dont amount to shit if the QB is running for his life every play.
Rabach is as good as the two guards beside him. Which neither one of them is worth a damn. So it isn't all on Rabach. the whole unit sucks.
We have zero identity upfront. I am wondering if these coaches can find a way to maximize the guys up front and call to their strenghts, because what ever they are doing isn't working for crap. Quicker 3 step drops, more slants, some more screens. Something to get the ball out of McNabbs hands quicker.

The McNabb trade gave them our 2010 2nd, so I believe we do have a 2nd round pick. It also gave philly a 3rd or 4th in 2011. Plus the J. Brown trade was conditional as well I believe, think a 4th or 5th but not sure.

Anyways, w/our 1st & 2nd we may be able to trade back & get some more picks later in the 2nd, I expect Allen to look to make some deals on draft day. He did a good job of getting more late round picks in the last draft, let's see if he can get more 1st day picks next year.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I couldn't disagree more. Hastlett isn't the reason we are getting absolutely gashed every week. You have to have the players, and we dont, bottom line.
We only have a 1st, no 2nd, can't remember if we have 3rd, or 4th. We need to draft offensive lineman. Stop going after the flashy picks. The WR dont amount to shit if the QB is running for his life every play.
Rabach is as good as the two guards beside him. Which neither one of them is worth a damn. So it isn't all on Rabach. the whole unit sucks.
We have zero identity upfront. I am wondering if these coaches can find a way to maximize the guys up front and call to their strenghts, because what ever they are doing isn't working for crap. Quicker 3 step drops, more slants, some more screens. Something to get the ball out of McNabbs hands quicker.

Bull puckey! Haslett sucks, man. You can slice this shit anyway you want to. I doubt or at least hopes he's not here next year. We can talk talent all day long, brother, but the Skins have given up over 30 points or more four times this season! We've gone from a top ten (maybe top fifteen) defense to dead last in a year?!

I know that Shanahan is a good coach, but I am not a fan at all and am less than impressed with Kyle. It's completely absurd the Roydell Williams and Joey Galloway are still on this NFL roster 8 games into the season. Why not just bring up Austin to see what he's got? I mean really, is he going to do worse than zero catches? It's beyond me how you have a very capable, if not great, Derrick Dockery inactive every week while KL plays turn style with defensive tackles every game. Sure this team has missing pieces, but what team doesn't?

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Bull puckey! Haslett sucks, man. You can slice this shit anyway you want to. I doubt or at least hopes he's not here next year. We can talk talent all day long, brother, but the Skins have given up over 30 points or more four times this season! We've gone from a top ten (maybe top fifteen) defense to dead last in a year?!

I know that Shanahan is a good coach, but I am not a fan at all and am less than impressed with Kyle. It's completely absurd the Roydell Williams and Joey Galloway are still on this NFL roster 8 games into the season. Why not just bring up Austin to see what he's got? I mean really, is he going to do worse than zero catches? It's beyond me how you have a very capable, if not great, Derrick Dockery inactive every week while KL plays turn style with defensive tackles every game. Sure this team has missing pieces, but what team doesn't?

I'm guessing the guys that can't see the field have the talent (more than the guys on the field), but their work ethic is keeping them on the sidelines. I get the feeling Shanahan favors work ethic over talent.