LOL @ Redskins

[NC_Skins]

The single biggest problem I see with Skins fans is that they grossly overestimate the talent on our team. The truth of the reality is that we aren't a talented team (compared to others) and it's going to take a hell of a lot of work to get to the point where we need to be. Quite frankly, I"m happy as hell to be in the position we are right now because I know the ship is sailing in the right direction. It's obvious we have holes all across the board right now and hopefully we'll address them in the future drafts.


Interior OL
WRs
D-Line
Linebackers
Free Safety
QB (sorry, but you aren't going to win ball games with inconsistency at the main spot)

[over the mountain]

yeah i know that allen said we are not in rebuild mode but the temperature of skins fans before the season was expecting 8-8. we are still on course for that.

some where between beating dallas in week 1, winning against the packers then having the NFC east become anyones division, suddenly expectations were raised to playoff or bust status.

i could have done without yet another total demolishing during a home MNF game thoo.

[Bushead]

Shanny will get a good 4 years out of me before I complain about coaching. Just for once, Fanbase and Snyder, let the the GM and Coach get players together they want.

This team doesn't have any talent, and it's going to be a while. The Eagles have three WRs that could be the number one guy on our team, while we have only one receiver that might be the number two guy in the league. It's time to retool! I'm glad we have McNabb for a couple more years; it will give us time to focus on drafting what we really need.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Shanny will get a good 4 years out of me before I complain about coaching. Just for once, Fanbase and Snyder, let the the GM and Coach get players together they want.

This team doesn't have any talent, and it's going to be a while. The Eagles have three WRs that could be the number one guy on our team, while we have only one receiver that might be the number two guy in the league. It's time to retool! I'm glad we have McNabb for a couple more years; it will give us time to focus on drafting what we really need.

Well it doesn't seem that Snyder is looking to interfere

Funny thing about the Eagles WRs. DeSean Jackson's first catch in the game was obviously huge and set the tone for the game, but other than that he really didn't do anything in two games against us

[SBXVII]

56, funny you should mention the same BS coming out of Redskins park every year...

The Eagles fan I work with said even he's tired of hearing that very same thing.... "wait till next year."

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

56, funny you should mention the same BS coming out of Redskins park every year...

The Eagles fan I work with said even he's tired of hearing that very same thing.... "wait till next year."

I just dont get where Eagle fans should be upset. They have been one of the more dominating teams over the last 10 years. 9 playoff appearances in 11 years. of those 9 - 5 NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance. I would gladly trade our last 10 years for theirs in a second.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I just dont get where Eagle fans should be upset. They have been one of the more dominating teams over the last 10 years. 9 playoff appearances in 11 years. of those 9 - 5 NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance. I would gladly trade our last 10 years for theirs in a second.

No no you misunderstood me. lol. He's tired of hearing every year that "next year will be the Skins year." and to be honest he's probably right. How many of us sat back over the summer and had to tell people to chill out with the Super Bowl BS? Just cause Shanahan has been there doesn't mean we are going year 1.

If the owner was looking for that I think he should have picked up a HC who would have came in and evaluated the talent on the team and decided to run an offense and defense that worked best for the players we had. Part of Zorn's problem was we didn't have the right personel to run the WCO. I'm trying not to stick up for Zorn here. So what does Snyder pick up? A HC that runs the WCO. It might take 2 to 3 years before we should even be talking playoffs. Then there's the defense.... we are switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4, we don't have the personel to run a 3-4. But we are not doing bad doing it.

Basically I'm saying before fans scream fire someone can we give this HC time to effectively get the team working right? thats all and not expect miracles right from the get go.

I'm severely disappointed in last night but the team has looked better in other games.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I just dont get where Eagle fans should be upset. They have been one of the more dominating teams over the last 10 years. 9 playoff appearances in 11 years. of those 9 - 5 NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance. I would gladly trade our last 10 years for theirs in a second.

Well loosing hurts durn the season and loosing hurts even more the deaper you get into the playoffs. The Eagle fans have nothing to show for what the team has done but a pat on the back. Like last night did not really bother me that bad because the game was over after the first 10 min. and after that it became pretty funny. If we had lead until a last minute FG I would have been deflated from the loss.

[SmootSmack]

You really can't compare the Wizards/Capitals to the Redskins. Redskins fanhood is on a whole different level. Fans call for firings at the first holding call in a preseason game

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You really can't compare the Wizards/Capitals to the Redskins. Redskins fanhood is on a whole different level. Fans call for firings at the first holding call in a preseason game

I was only comparing Snyders unwillingness to say rebuild, where Leonsis was / is very open that his teams rebuild with youth and through the draft.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You really can't compare the Wizards/Capitals to the Redskins. Redskins fanhood is on a whole different level. Fans call for firings at the first holding call in a preseason game

This fanbase in many ways seem desperate, grasping for straws, always looking for that someone who can duplicate "Buns" I.

Based on some of the things we witnessed going on at the game last night, the experience is beginning to be a not so plesant one.

[tjmorgan]

Unfortunately, I have a very bad feeling that this is the start of the downward spiral for us this year.

[redskinjim]

Originally Posted by tjmorgan

Unfortunately, I have a very bad feeling that this is the start of the downward spiral for us this year.

the way our oline played the last couple of games is very alarming in the sense that the plays were running are going to get mcnabb killed. So we must not be able to adjust anything so he has time to throw the ball.I think they are worn down already.

[over the mountain]

when leonsis rebuilt the caps, he took ALOT of crap from fans and season ticket holders for the way he sent kolzig, bondra others packing. it was well covered when he had a near fight with a caps fan.

i think from a money stand point, given how many season tickets werent renewed last year (the skins were desperate to sell ST this offseason), i dont think snyder could afford to say rebuild. too much money at stake.

could you imagine if we traded/got rid of fletcher, landry portis moss cooley . . . . snyder and the skins would have taken a huge huge loss. imo i dont think snyder has as much money as people think nowadays. i see his riches tied directly to what he makes from the skins.

[Jontrem]

This won't make sense to anyone who hasn't seen Band of Brothers but Dan Snyder reminds me a lot of Capt Sobel (played by David Shwimmer the friends guy) there is one scene where EZ company is on a training excessive and they know where the other force is and Sobel can't contain himself, he knows that he should stay where he is and let them come to him but he just CAN'T he looks all panic stricken and he HAS to go and get them. Its just like Snyder and free agency he knows its a bad idea but he cant stop himself signing big free agents!

Just to be clear I like Daniel Snyder quite a bit, he is a good human being who has accomplished much in his life and he has given much back to the community.