2011 NFL Draft

[SBXVII]

Defense, let me ask you this, how much more blame should Shanahan toss on? He's accepted having handled the first benching of McNabb wrong. That's all The blame I'd give him. The Haynesworth issue I feel is all on AH being a prima dona trying to get what he wants and not have to do what his coach has requested of him.

The second benching of McNabb I figured the coach was protecting McNabb from meaningless games. Then all the dirt came out about McNabb not studying or knowing the full playbook. Stats a side you can't tell me Grossman didn't look better simply cause he knew the playbook better.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Defense, let me ask you this, how much more blame should Shanahan toss on? He's accepted having handled the first benching of McNabb wrong. That's all The blame I'd give him. The Haynesworth issue I feel is all on AH being a prima dona trying to get what he wants and not have to do what his coach has requested of him.

The second benching of McNabb I figured the coach was protecting McNabb from meaningless games. Then all the dirt came out about McNabb not studying or knowing the full playbook. Stats a side you can't tell me Grossman didn't look better simply cause he knew the playbook better.

He should have stood up for his QB and mentioned that the rest of the team is also not playing well. The offensive line, RB's injured all the time, receivers that dropped many passes, a defense that was ranked last most of the season.
Yes, McNabb played poorly. I will admit that.
But if you are going to invest a 2nd and a 5th on a player and abandon him in less thatn one season when things get bad that is weak.
Mcnabb is not Jeff George.
McNabb paid out of his own pocket to fly his receivers on their off time to work extra time to get to know each other. McNabb has done everything you expect of a team leader to do and more....and his coach shit on him.

[skinsnut]

There is no doubt the skins went through a radical change this year going from Zorn's easy going, buddy coach attitude to a dictator in one year.
I personally did not expect the radical behavior from shanny to be so extreme as to completely alienate top players that felt they paid their dues...such as haynesworth and Mcnabb...if it was only haynesworth, id understand as he is a me first player...but to alienate McNabb and throw him to the curb without giving him 2 full years is a bit crazy.
I understand he underperformed...but the line sucked...again and who's fault is that?
The reality is both prior coaching staffs got probowl production out of these two, but shanny would be lucky to garner a crappy 5th round pick for either of them.
That alone should tell you something.

I visualize Shanny in one of those westerns with players with egos saying....
This team aint big enough for the both of us.

I can see McNabb doing fairly well for another team, and don't be suprised if Haynesworth has a great season either.

Back to the draft...no way the skins waste their 1st rounder on a QB now that Luck is gone, the Qb's will be taken way to high...we need Dline at that spot...its the only move that makes sense at #10

[SBXVII]

Wow. Ok.

#1 - I think everyone pretty much knew the OL played horrid. I personally didn't think each one needed to step up to a microphone and mention their piss poor play caused McNabb to have bad games.

#2 - Did McNabb play well? No. Is it all his fault? No. I'll even defend McNabb for you... no one should expect a player to come in 4 months prior to the season starting an expect him to know the play book inside and out. I actually wouldn't mind seeing what McNabb can do with more time to learn the offense. But that most likely won't happen.

But those 2 reasons does not excuse McNabb for all his poorly thrown ball, lack of mobility, and lackadaisical 2 min drill.

[SBXVII]

I think I missed the part where McNabb admitted his roll? Or lack there of.

[T.O.Killa]

Interesting article about Shannahan. Reviewing The Conventional Wisdom On Mike Shanahan's Drafts

Here is how his offense would look with guy all under 30, and remember he had no 2009 draft.

•QB Jay Cutler
•RB Ryan Torain
•FB Peyton Hillis
•WR Brandon Marshall
•WR Eddie Royal
•WR Brandon Banks
•TE Tony Scheffler
•LT Ryan Clady
•C Kory Lichtensteiger
•RT Trent Williams

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Interesting article about Shannahan. Reviewing The Conventional Wisdom On Mike Shanahan's Drafts

Here is how his offense would look with guy all under 30, and remember he had no 2009 draft.

•QB Jay Cutler
•RB Ryan Torain
•FB Peyton Hillis
•WR Brandon Marshall
•WR Eddie Royal
•WR Brandon Banks
•TE Tony Scheffler
•LT Ryan Clady
•C Kory Lichtensteiger
•RT Trent Williams

Umm, I'll take this team. lol. I don't know about Lichtensteiger playing Center though.

[Terpfan76]

Orakpo is playing his first year in a 3-4. Give him time to fully digest the system. While Orakpo only managed 1.5 sacks after the bye, it should be no surprise that that's about the same time that Landry went down. Add another rush linebacker and just imagine what could happen. Orakpo we'll be a star in this defense, if the front office will give Haslett enough time to develop it.

[44ever]

Those who like Cam Newton in 2011 should have a look at this:
Cam X-rayed - CBSSports.com
Auburn coach Gene Chizik did not elaborate early Tuesday on what could be a significant injury to quarterback Cam Newton in Monday night's championship game

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Those who like Cam Newton in 2011 should have a look at this:
Cam X-rayed - CBSSports.com
Auburn coach Gene Chizik did not elaborate early Tuesday on what could be a significant injury to quarterback Cam Newton in Monday night's championship game

Good. One more reason for the Skins to think about NOT drafting him.

[Chico23231]

I think if we take a QB, the 2nd round pick would probably be best used to vs the talent that will be there. I think Mallet is worth a look at 10...everyone else probably not. Mallet probably will be gone.

If there has every been a year to trade down out of the 10th, its this year.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think if we take a QB, the 2nd round pick would probably be best used to vs the talent that will be there. I think Mallet is worth a look at 10...everyone else probably not. Mallet probably will be gone.

If there has every been a year to trade down out of the 10th, its this year.

There isn't really a QB worth a second round pick. Let's look at the facts, if a guy like Colt McCoy is going to fall to the third round then we can easily expect that next tier of Dalton, Devlin, and Ponder to be there as late as the fourth round.

I mean be honest, do you really expect to read a headline like this one day?

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Improbable leader: Dalton atop Pro Bowl voting «

Christian Ponder, Tramon Williams Among Pro Bowl Snubs | Cheesehead TV

[skinsfaninok]

Andy Dalton

[SmootSmack]

Well Michael Floyd won't be entering the draft and, Blackmon is expected to officially announce he's returning to Oklahoma State later today. So that's two WRs off the board

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well Michael Floyd won't be entering the draft and, Blackmon is expected to officially announce he's returning to Oklahoma State later today. So that's two WRs off the board

Leaving us with AJ Green (haha) or Johnathan Baldwin if we want to go the receiver route on draft day.