2011 NFL Draft

[celts32]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

The last mock from Kiper had us taking the QB out of Las Vegas (Koeperniachalechsentesck or something) in the 2nd round. Is this guy on really on our radar? Is he really rated as a 2nd round talent?

Just curious.

I have seen a lot of mock drafts giving us Kaepernick in round #2. It will scare the hell out of me if he ends up being the QB they draft. He is a total project. Was most likely a late round pick until he looked good at the Senior Bowl. If they say locker, gabbert and Newton need a year of grooming before they play i would hate to see how long it takes us to get this guy ready...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Here's Mallet (I thought he was actually pretty solid)

QB Camp: Ryan Mallett - ESPN Video - ESPN

and Dalton (I'm still not really seeing the fascination)

QB Camp: Andy Dalton - ESPN Video - ESPN

Good stuff with Mallett, and damn can he throw or what

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

YouTube - Gruden's QB Camp: Jake Locker

I really like this kid. Thanks for the link.

[Skins4Eva]

In my opinion, with our limited amount of picks, our best bet would be to trade out of the 10 spot. A very "non-flashy" but highly effective first two picks for our team woulde be:

Trade out of #10 (if possible)

Select Cameron Heyward with the first pick; then grab Phil Taylor.

I know that many of us want is a QB, but let's not forget last season, we absolutely could not stop anyone! By taking Heyward and Taylor, we are getting great value and are building the foundation of our new 3-4. We all are aware of Taylor's upside, but Heyward's name is not one I've heard mentioned a lot. He has the size, decent explosiveness and the character/work ethic that would serve the 3-4 and our team well.

[SBXVII]

Wow, decisions decisions, Should we take an athletic/mobile QB who's not accurate (ie; Grossman), or do we look for an accurate QB who has some mobility? I'd prefer they took the accurate QB with some mobility. I'm tired of the strong armed non accurate QB's (Campbell, McNabb) and the non accurate mobile QB (Grossman). Time to just go out and get an accurate QB. Although McNabb rolled out it seemed more often then not he was simply tasked to drop back and pass.

So either get an accurate passer or pick up WR's who will go fight for the ball, or know how to adjust their route to go after the ball.

[SmootSmack]

Take out Newton and Gabbert b/c the Redskins won't trade up for either of those guys (I don't think)

Then you've probably got this order of preference, from what I've gathered

1. Dalton
1A. Locker
2. Ponder
3. Kaepernick
4. Mallet

However, after Ponder I believe that actually that cluster of McElroy, Taylor (maybe Stanzi) is preferable in 4th or 5th round over Kaepernick or Mallet in the 1st 2 rounds.

So, I would say if not Dalton, Locker, or Ponder then they probably wait a few rounds to take someone like McElroy. Again, no FA is really messing their plans up

[JoeRedskin]

^^ Thanks.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Take out Newton and Gabbert b/c the Redskins won't trade up for either of those guys (I don't think)

Then you've probably got this order of preference, from what I've gathered

1. Dalton
1A. Locker
2. Ponder
3. Kaepernick
4. Mallet

However, after Ponder I believe that actually that cluster of McElroy, Taylor (maybe Stanzi) is preferable in 4th or 5th round over Kaepernick or Mallet in the 1st 2 rounds.

So, I would say if not Dalton, Locker, or Ponder then they probably wait a few rounds to take someone like McElroy. Again, no FA is really messing their plans up

Wow Dalton. He's obviosly not in the mix at #10 so that puts them in a position of trying to trade up from #41 to the end of the 1st round which is not easy to do.

Aside from the fact that you don't think they will trade up...what are you hearing of their interest in Gabbert or Newton in general? Would they be 1 & 2 on that list?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by celts32

Wow Dalton. He's obviosly not in the mix at #10 so that puts them in a position of trying to trade up from #41 in the end of the end of the 1st round.

Aside from the fact that you don't think they will trade up...what are you hearing of their interest in Gabbert or Newton in general? Would they be 1 & 2 on that list?

Trade up from #41 or trade down from #10.

Good question, I don't really know the answer. I think maybe yes, but they were never really serious possibilities.

What's interesting, to me at least, is that I mentioned Quinn being at the top of their board since the beginning of January and that (from all I've heard) hasn't changed in the last 3 months. That's extremely uncommon. That's a sign of what no Free Agency does

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Take out Newton and Gabbert b/c the Redskins won't trade up for either of those guys (I don't think)

Then you've probably got this order of preference, from what I've gathered

1. Dalton
1A. Locker
2. Ponder
3. Kaepernick
4. Mallet

However, after Ponder I believe that actually that cluster of McElroy, Taylor (maybe Stanzi) is preferable in 4th or 5th round over Kaepernick or Mallet in the 1st 2 rounds.

So, I would say if not Dalton, Locker, or Ponder then they probably wait a few rounds to take someone like McElroy. Again, no FA is really messing their plans up

Tyrod!

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Tyrod!

"The following post is in Spanish would you like to translate it."

*Clicks yes*

Originally Posted by freddyg12 Translated Post

Mediocrity at best!

Lol, I kid. We have no shot at mediocrity with Tyrod.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Take out Newton and Gabbert b/c the Redskins won't trade up for either of those guys (I don't think)

Then you've probably got this order of preference, from what I've gathered

1. Dalton
1A. Locker
2. Ponder
3. Kaepernick
4. Mallet

However, after Ponder I believe that actually that cluster of McElroy, Taylor (maybe Stanzi) is preferable in 4th or 5th round over Kaepernick or Mallet in the 1st 2 rounds.

So, I would say if not Dalton, Locker, or Ponder then they probably wait a few rounds to take someone like McElroy. Again, no FA is really messing their plans up

Kaep? That the most surprising to me because of the similarities to Tebow and the way Kyle felt about Tebow.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Kaep? That the most surprising to me because of the similarities to Tebow and the way Kyle felt about Tebow.

You lost me

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You lost me

Just that Kyle didn't seem to high on Tebow last year and Kaep is a very similar prospect to Tebow except he arguably has a worse throwing motion and played in a more gimmicky offense:

If you draft him thinking you're going to correct (the flaws), then you're wrong," said Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, a former Bucs assistant. "I think it's going to be just as much up to him as the team that takes him. … If he's better at one thing than another, then you better figure out how to work that into your offense.

"If you draft him and think you're going to do what you've been doing all along, you're probably going to be getting him ready for the next coach who's going to replace you."

NFL scouts scrutinizing former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow - St. Petersburg Times

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Just that Kyle didn't seem to high on Tebow last year and Kaep is a very similar prospect to Tebow except he arguably has a worse throwing motion and played in a more gimmicky offense:



NFL scouts scrutinizing former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow - St. Petersburg Times

I don't think I said the Skins were interested in Kaepernick. They're not really, as far as I know