Rogers Frustrated By Some Redskins Fans

[Paintrain]

I'm glad Rogers is frustrated with some fans. Good, because I am frustrated by Rogers.

He's got more mouth than production, the worst attribute of an NFL player who thinks he is better than he actually is. I've never heard more from a guy who does less. He's a GOOD cover corner, not great and far from elite. When I think of him I think getting beat, getting benched and dropping easy INT. The apologists KILL ME 'sure he doesn't make interceptions but he's in position to break up the pass'. That's part of your job and why you won't be getting the big dollar extension you feel you 'deserve'. How some fans are willing to accept that is baffling to me.

Maybe you should worry less about the fans and more about your assignments, not getting beaten on double moves and not getting beat deep by the TE on a 3rd & 1 when playaction was an obvious call.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I'm glad Rogers is frustrated with some fans. Good, because I am frustrated by Rogers.

He's got more mouth than production, the worst attribute of an NFL player who thinks he is better than he actually is. I've never heard more from a guy who does less. He's a GOOD cover corner, not great and far from elite. When I think of him I think getting beat, getting benched and dropping easy INT. The apologists KILL ME 'sure he doesn't make interceptions but he's in position to break up the pass'. That's part of your job and why you won't be getting the big dollar extension you feel you 'deserve'. How some fans are willing to accept that is baffling to me.

Maybe you should worry less about the fans and more about your assignments, not getting beaten on double moves and not getting beat deep by the TE on a 3rd & 1 when playaction was an obvious call.

That, and if Hall played close to as well as Buchanon does on the other side, we'd have one of the best CB trios in football.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I'm glad Rogers is frustrated with some fans. Good, because I am frustrated by Rogers.

He's got more mouth than production, the worst attribute of an NFL player who thinks he is better than he actually is. I've never heard more from a guy who does less. He's a GOOD cover corner, not great and far from elite. When I think of him I think getting beat, getting benched and dropping easy INT. The apologists KILL ME 'sure he doesn't make interceptions but he's in position to break up the pass'. That's part of your job and why you won't be getting the big dollar extension you feel you 'deserve'. How some fans are willing to accept that is baffling to me.

Maybe you should worry less about the fans and more about your assignments, not getting beaten on double moves and not getting beat deep by the TE on a 3rd & 1 when playaction was an obvious call.

Los has been more than solid this year. Just a reminder, every corner gets beat. And trust me, on the open market he will get a big contract. Not Samuel money cause he's not as good but he will get a nice pay raise.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Los has been more than solid this year. Just a reminder, every corner gets beat. And trust me, on the open market he will get a big contract. Not Samuel money cause he's not as good but he will get a nice pay raise.

I didn't say he sucks, I said he's a good cover corner-but he's not great and doesn't do anything special. If Fletcher, Carter, Rak, Daniels, LoAx or someone else on the defense whose level of play justified their level of talk said something like this I wouldn't care but Los has diarrhea of the mouth and he's not good enough at his WHOLE job to talk that much.

Sure, he'll get a decent contract on the open market, under 30, good player on the man, mostly healthy but he's a headache and a prima donna.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I didn't say he sucks, I said he's a good cover corner-but he's not great and doesn't do anything special. If Fletcher, Carter, Rak, Daniels, LoAx or someone else on the defense whose level of play justified their level of talk said something like this I wouldn't care but Los has diarrhea of the mouth and he's not good enough at his WHOLE job to talk that much.

Sure, he'll get a decent contract on the open market, under 30, good player on the man, mostly healthy but he's a headache and a prima donna.

Are you serious?? I think you just described Albert Haynesworth.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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Are you serious?? I think you just described Albert Haynesworth.

Post season 2008, Rogers wants to be traded.. Post season 2009, Rogers 'I'm outta here!', offseason 2010, Rogers skips some OTA until he talks to Shanny and gets his ego stroked.. Similar to Fat Al, no?

Look, I won't burn the house down if he re-signs with us. He's a decent/good corner but his mouth outweighs his talent, that's all I am saying. When healthy and playing well I will take Rogers-Hall-Buchanon over any other top 3 CB in the division because they give a good mix of good coverage and playmaking ability.

I'd just be more of a fan of his if he'd shut up as much as he shuts down. Oh yeah, and catch balls that a third grade girl could catch.

[aceinthehouse]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Los has been more than solid this year. Just a reminder, every corner gets beat. And trust me, on the open market he will get a big contract. Not Samuel money cause he's not as good but he will get a nice pay raise.

exactly..every corner gets beat

Hall gets beat more than Carlos..I agree

But Hall does what Carlos apparently just can't...
Intercept the football and score...
(and sometimes strip the ball and creates a turnover and score)

Which is why I want Hall on my team over Carlos
It's that simple for me...

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by aceinthehouse

exactly..every corner gets beat

Hall gets beat more than Carlos..I agree

But Hall does what Carlos apparently just can't...
Intercept the football and score...
(and sometimes strip the ball and creates a turnover and score)

Which is why I want Hall on my team over Carlos
It's that simple for me...

Not every corner can be Nnamdi or Revis. I think we're lucky to have a good coverage corner and a ballhawk corner. Sure it would be nice to have one guy with both skills, but we don't. I don't understand why people must choose one or the other. I said this many times when Hall's contract was up, Rogers and Hall compliment each other. No need to rant for or against either guy.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Not every corner can be Nnamdi or Revis. I think we're lucky to have a good coverage corner and a ballhawk corner. Sure it would be nice to have one guy with both skills, but we don't. I don't understand why people must choose one or the other. I said this many times when Hall's contract was up, Rogers and Hall compliment each other. No need to rant for or against either guy.

Very True.

"watching the Redskins corners week after week is a roller coaster ride. While Hall is more of a playmaker, he tends to be streaky in coverage while Rogers is a reliable cover man. Maybe the two could combine forces and become a single shutdown corner; Hall offering his big play skills to the equation and Rogers contributing his abilities in coverage"

Crunching Numbers On DeAngelo Hall And Carlos Rogers - Half Smokes - SB Nation DC

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Very True.

"watching the Redskins corners week after week is a roller coaster ride. While Hall is more of a playmaker, he tends to be streaky in coverage while Rogers is a reliable cover man. Maybe the two could combine forces and become a single shutdown corner; Hall offering his big play skills to the equation and Rogers contributing his abilities in coverage"

Crunching Numbers On DeAngelo Hall And Carlos Rogers - Half Smokes - SB Nation DC

Problem is, if you try to put 10 other players on the field, they're going to flag you for too many men.

[aceinthehouse]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Not every corner can be Nnamdi or Revis. I think we're lucky to have a good coverage corner and a ballhawk corner. Sure it would be nice to have one guy with both skills, but we don't. I don't understand why people must choose one or the other. I said this many times when Hall's contract was up, Rogers and Hall compliment each other. No need to rant for or against either guy.

I totally agree with you Ruhskins. They do compliment each other and what one does well,the other has that weakness. But at least there is a balance.

But sometimes i wonder if the people here realize the importance of turnovers?

When you have a guy with Ball skills,it makes your defense that much better.

That's why S.Taylor was so special...
He was a great Hitter
A great tackler ...He was fast
He could play man-to-man
or Zone
This is what made him complete...but NOT Special!

What made him special,was his ball play ability...
The guy won the Eagles and Tampa alone...in 2005
If he doesn't do that,we probably don't win the eagles game and we definately don't win the Bucs game,as we set a record for fewest Off. pt's in History in a playoff win.

THAT is why Sean was a special player.
Not because he was 6'3"
or cover Moss one-on-One with his speed and height...
Although Awesome!

What made Sean taylor Special,was his ability to win the game.
and that's why we play the game.

Sorry to bring him up....but Sean helps my argument guys...

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Not every corner can be Nnamdi or Revis. I think we're lucky to have a good coverage corner and a ballhawk corner. Sure it would be nice to have one guy with both skills, but we don't. I don't understand why people must choose one or the other. I said this many times when Hall's contract was up, Rogers and Hall compliment each other. No need to rant for or against either guy.

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