Analyzing Mike Shanahan at the Midway Point

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

Like I said, Shannahan deserves a D, I just wanted to remind those who strangely thought he deserved an A or a B, for what? What has he improved? The worst mistake of the Snyder era.

People wanted Fassel, Gruden Cowher, Billick, etc. all those coaches listed probably would have accomplished the same as Shanahan or less. I wanted Harbaugh or Holmgren, look what Holmgren has accomplished in Cleveland and Harbaugh in my opinion will be the next great coach in the NFL. I'll give Shanahan another year to see what he can do before I give up on him.

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

People wanted Fassel, Gruden Cowher, Billick, etc. all those coaches listed probably would have accomplished the same as Shanahan or less. I wanted Harbaugh or Holmgren, look what Holmgren has accomplished in Cleveland and Harbaugh in my opinion will be the next great coach in the NFL. I'll give Shanahan another year to see what he can do before I give up on him.

Harbaugh will definitely make a great NFL coach. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up in San Francisco next year. As for Holmgren, I would of preferred him over Shannahan too. To bad we're stuck with Shannahan for time being.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

People wanted Fassel, Gruden Cowher, Billick, etc. all those coaches listed probably would have accomplished the same as Shanahan or less. I wanted Harbaugh or Holmgren, look what Holmgren has accomplished in Cleveland and Harbaugh in my opinion will be the next great coach in the NFL. I'll give Shanahan another year to see what he can do before I give up on him.

What exactly has Holmgren accomplished in Cleveland?

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What exactly has Holmgren accomplished in Cleveland?

A 5-7 Record, just like us....

Although I realistically could see the Browns being a playoff contender in a year. They're actually a really fun team to watch.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

A 5-7 Record, just like us....

Although I realistically could see the Browns being a playoff contender in a year. They're actually a really fun team to watch.

I agree. McCoy has looked good, they have some nice young pieces on the defense, Hillis is an absolute beast of a player, they have a young franchise LT, Josh Cribbs, etc... They're a young, up and coming team for sure.

The Redskins on the other hand are old, injured, and largely talentless. Not really a good combo.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree. McCoy has looked good, they have some nice young pieces on the defense, Hillis is an absolute beast of a player, they have a young franchise LT, Josh Cribbs, etc... They're a young, up and coming team for sure.

The Redskins on the other hand are old, injured, and largely talentless. Not really a good combo.

you just said the browns are better than the redskins , and the said thing is you are right

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What exactly has Holmgren accomplished in Cleveland?

As a GM he has made this team very competitive, they've beaten NO, Miami and NE, have been in just about every game. He didn't give up the farm for Delhomme, drafted McCoy, traded for Hillis, etc. I say the Browns are a much better team than the Redskins right now.

Sun 9/12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Tampa Bay (0-0) L 14 - 17
Sun 9/19 Kansas City Chiefs Kansas City (1-0) L 14 - 16
Sun 9/26 Baltimore Ravens at Baltimore (1-1) L 17 - 24
Sun 10/3 Cincinnati Bengals Cincinnati (2-1) W 23 - 20
Sun 10/10 Atlanta Falcons Atlanta (3-1) L 10 - 20
Sun 10/17 Pittsburgh Steelers at Pittsburgh (3-1) L 10 - 28
Sun 10/24 New Orleans Saints at New Orleans (4-2) W 30 - 17
Sun 11/7 New England Patriots New England (6-1) W 34 - 14
Sun 11/14 New York Jets NY Jets (6-2) L 20 - 26
Sun 11/21 Jacksonville Jaguars at Jacksonville (5-4) L 20 - 24
Sun 11/28 Carolina Panthers Carolina (1-9) W 24 - 23
Sun 12/5 Miami Dolphins at Miami (6-5) W 13 - 10

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

People wanted Fassel, Gruden Cowher, Billick, etc. all those coaches listed probably would have accomplished the same as Shanahan or less. I wanted Harbaugh or Holmgren, look what Holmgren has accomplished in Cleveland and Harbaugh in my opinion will be the next great coach in the NFL. I'll give Shanahan another year to see what he can do before I give up on him.

Then consider yourself Dan Snyder, thats been his MO since he has been here to quick to pull the plug.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Then consider yourself Dan Snyder, thats been his MO since he has been here to quick to pull the plug.

Seriously, coaches need a minimum of three years, in my opinion. Unless things are such a trainwreck; like in Zorn's case....

Like today was pathetic, and thats just as much on Shannahan as it is the players... and I absolutley hate the way that Shanahan has handled the Haynesworth situation...but until he really gets a chance to get some guys in here then I still want to give it time....

I am very dissapointed to see how this team seems to have regressed instead of progressed over the course of the year though...