Week 13: Redskins vs. Giants Gameday thread

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Texanskin

what are yall talking about??? MS. Has to establish rules within a organization that has lacked discipline for 15+ years. Playing players that show up late to meetings or lie about being in football shape should NOT be rewarded by playing them anyway.....discipline is the reason CP showed up to camp in the best shape in years...our problem is lack of talent.....(he did botch mcnabb benching)...its going to take time ppl....remember...we won only 4 games last year

It's going to take time but changing the defense was MS idea cause he thought using a 3-4 would cause more turnovers. Well we went from a top 10 defense to the worst in the NFL. He has to take blame for that. MS should've just worried about fixing the offense and left the D alone. This 3-4 has been a complete cluster ****.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It's going to take time but changing the defense was MS idea cause he thought using a 3-4 would cause more turnovers. Well we went from a top 10 defense to the worst in the NFL. He has to take blame for that. MS should've just worried about fixing the offense and left the D alone. This 3-4 has been a complete cluster ****.

Really? The departure of guys like Cornelius Griffin, the decline of Kedric Golston, the complete whiff and waste of space that is Ma'ake Kemoeatu, the ho-hum performance of Rocky McIntosh, the age of Philip Daniels, London Fletcher, Andre Carter -- those have nothing to do with how bad this defense is?

That "top 10 defense" was a patchwork group that worked really well in 2004 and 2005, took a big dive in 2006, and has been headed in a downward spin over the last couple of seasons. If Greg Blache were still here, and if this was a 4 -3 defense 100% of the time, there isn't any doubt in my mind that this year's D would be in the very same position.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Really? The departure of guys like Cornelius Griffin, the decline of Kedric Golston, the complete whiff and waste of space that is Ma'ake Kemoeatu, the ho-hum performance of Rocky McIntosh, the age of Philip Daniels, London Fletcher, Andre Carter -- those have nothing to do with how bad this defense is?

That "top 10 defense" was a patchwork group that worked really well in 2004 and 2005, took a big dive in 2006, and has been headed in a downward spin over the last couple of seasons. If Greg Blache were still here, and if this was a 4 -3 defense 100% of the time, there isn't any doubt in my mind that this year's D would be in the very same position.

I disagree. Kemoeatu would not even be on the field and he's a huge part of the problem. Carter would be back at his normal position. Rocky would be playing weakside LB where he belongs.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I disagree. Kemoeatu would not even be on the field and he's a huge part of the problem. Carter would be back at his normal position. Rocky would be playing weakside LB where he belongs.

Okay, so the solution is simple -- just get Greg Blache back and switch over to the 4-3 and suddenly we'll be a top ten defense again, right?

What we're seeing now was going to happen no matter what system the coaches are running.