It's Talent, Not Coaching.

[Texanskin]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Gentlemen,
Bottom line...talent or coaching..chicken or the egg...or both.
I can not help but feel that if we had brought in a real stud defensive coordinator like a GWilliams or a Rex Ryan in last summer instead of Hasslets we would not be LAST in the NFL in defense ranking. You agree?
As you can tell from the day they announced his hiring, I have never been a Hasslett fan.
We are a premiere franchise in the NFL, we can do better than Hasslett.
Just saying.

According to who???? Market Value doesnt = Wins. We have sucked for so long that other teams in the NFL look at us like we look at cleveland (and really....who are WE to look down on ANYONE). Do we have Superbowls....yes. What have they done for us lately....or matter of fact...in the last 15 years!!!

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Texanskin

According to who???? Market Value doesnt = Wins. We have sucked for so long that other teams in the NFL look at us like we look at cleveland (and really....who are WE to look down on ANYONE). Do we have Superbowls....yes. What have they done for us lately....or matter of fact...in the last 15 years!!!

We have the money to hire top coaches. We fired Gregg Williams and he went on to win a Superbowl last year. we hired Jim Zorn! Wow! Thanks Vinny.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by Texanskin

According to who???? Market Value doesnt = Wins. We have sucked for so long that other teams in the NFL look at us like we look at cleveland (and really....who are WE to look down on ANYONE). Do we have Superbowls....yes. What have they done for us lately....or matter of fact...in the last 15 years!!!

Yeah, but wins alone doesn't make a team a premiere team necessarily. It's a very subjective matter, but I think the point that Defensewins was trying to make is that we are historic and relevant franchise, regardless of whether or not we win or lose. There's a reason that this franchise is one of the most valuable sports franchises on the planet; and that's what makes it premiere.