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Old 12-07-2010, 03:26 PM   #1
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Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year

So are we giving up on Brown at RT? He should be back to 100% next year and can probably be resigned for a reasonable deal.
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:33 PM   #2
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So are we giving up on Brown at RT? He should be back to 100% next year and can probably be resigned for a reasonable deal.
I'm not sure. I'd probably sign him but would still go after a RT. Heck he can play RT and we would still have someone to fill in if he's tired or gets hurt. Heyer or Hicks is not the answer.

If Brown can stay healthy then I'd be good with that, problem is he was injured with the Saints and after we pick him up only played a few games and gets injured. If nothing else we need a bonified back up who will be looking to start at some point. Whats Browns age?

But if the team wanted to go Center then RT I'd be good with that also. I have been a fan of picking skill position players in the past and it has gotten us very little. I'm trying something different in saying we need to build from the inside out. Build up the OL and give DM time to throw the ball or make a hole for the RB. Maybe then this team will be better.
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:38 PM   #3
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I'm not sure. I'd probably sign him but would still go after a RT. Heck he can play RT and we would still have someone to fill in if he's tired or gets hurt. Heyer or Hicks is not the answer.

If Brown can stay healthy then I'd be good with that, problem is he was injured with the Saints and after we pick him up only played a few games and gets injured. If nothing else we need a bonified back up who will be looking to start at some point. Whats Browns age?

But if the team wanted to go Center then RT I'd be good with that also. I have been a fan of picking skill position players in the past and it has gotten us very little. I'm trying something different in saying we need to build from the inside out. Build up the OL and give DM time to throw the ball or make a hole for the RB. Maybe then this team will be better.
He's not 100% recovered from the hip injury he had with the Saints, I think we knew that it would be an ongoing issue this year, but next year he should be back to full speed.
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:43 PM   #4
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He's not 100% recovered from the hip injury he had with the Saints, I think we knew that it would be an ongoing issue this year, but next year he should be back to full speed.
If he seems healthy and our crack pot voodoo doctors can keep him healthy then maybe go after a late round RT.

Someone said they liked the OL after it was all changed up in the Titans game. I'd go back to that for the rest of the games and see if the players are worth keeping in those positions. Perhaps Heyer is better at RG. Montgomery seemed better then Rabach. If that OL works out then simply draft for highest need.

I'm still going to say you don't go after BPA all the time. What if the BPA is a QB? and we have other needs. I take BPA at the position we have need for.
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:29 PM   #5
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Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year

Personally I think that the starting lineup for the offensive line should be what we had against the Titans. Draft the BPA and let them fight for jobs.
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:50 PM   #6
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Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year

This team needs playmakers. Yes, we need OL and DL help but we are seriously lacking in players that teams have to scheme against. I can think of 3 players on our entire ROSTER that if they were on an above average team an opponent would have to scheme against. Landry, Orakpo and maybe McNabb. That's it. Other than that we really have no playmaking talent. Cooley, Moss, Hall, Fletcher are all decent players that most teams would like to have but none of them are difference makers.

I get really tired of the people who think if we JUST address the lines we'll be just fine. Miami tried that and they suck. Cleveland tried that, guess what-suck. Don't get me wrong, upgrades are desperately NEEDED on both lines as well but until we have players who can actually change the game, the rest is just window dressing.
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There is not one position on this team where you can say its a bad pick. We need young talent and depth at every single position. I dont think any unit on our team is an area of strength. That being said the O-Line needs the most work and i think they have to use the 1st two picks on the solidying that unit. Watching our offense is embarrassing because we cant run or pass block well. Thats why we have so many terrible drives. Trent Williams was a great start now but we literally need a new starting LG, C, RG and RT. Jamal Brown is always hurt, if he can get healthy he is an option to start at RT. Change of pace Tailback and big tall receiver late in draft. Defense next season. No more patchwork.
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:02 PM   #8
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Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year

I don't believe we should just draft OL? For what? To say we drafted offensive linemen? That seems pretty counterproductive to me.
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I don't believe we should just draft OL? For what? To say we drafted offensive linemen? That seems pretty counterproductive to me.
we have never done this...so why not?? We have ALWAYS drafted the BPA....look at where THAT has gotten us......new coach...new draftng philosophy. Every good team wins in the trenches late in the season. As fans, we have to stop thinking skill players are the foundation.....do yall remember the HOGS????
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we have never done this...so why not?? We have ALWAYS drafted the BPA....look at where THAT has gotten us......new coach...new draftng philosophy. Every good team wins in the trenches late in the season. As fans, we have to stop thinking skill players are the foundation.....do yall remember the HOGS????
No, we drafted with a strange emphasis on skill positions and late-round LBs and safeties. We also drafted for "need" because "big #1 WR" was a need then. Remember that James ****ing Thrash was our #3 behind the terribly overpaid ARE.

Also, we didn't spend 4 1st and 2nd rounders on the hogs. Some of them came through UDFA, but I suppose it was an era where scouting the really late rounds was considered "not worth it", so talent was more likely to fall then.
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:42 PM   #11
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Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year

Have you ever seen a team that needs everything? It's in your big picture.

This team has more holes than a window screen, "A" single draft is just a stepping stone to where this team needs to go, it needs multiple [smart drafts] to just begin to turn the corner towards respectability. Offensive line has been a major priority for years, I'll always be a proponent of building inside out.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:14 AM   #12
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Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year

As long as we get a CENTER I WILL BE ECSTATIC!...rabach is probably a knowledgeable player, BUT he just gets shown up every game! we need someone with talent and knowledge at the position
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As long as we get a CENTER I WILL BE ECSTATIC!...rabach is probably a knowledgeable player, BUT he just gets shown up every game! we need someone with talent and knowledge at the position
Both Montgomery and Lichtensteiger are natural centers playing guard. From that, I think it's clear that guard is our biggest o-line problem.
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Shahanan still has very high hopes for Malcolm Kelly...so we'll see
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:40 PM   #15
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Should load up with linemen period and maybe a RB or WR. Put RB over WR. I think we could sign some nice undrafted Wrs in 2011. Trade AH for more picks.
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