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Old 12-08-2010, 01:11 PM   #1
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Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year

We only have 2 picks of players that we can expect to start for us in the future considering we traded our 3rd and 4th.

I think It would be a mistake to not draft a QB in the 1st, but if that is not available then OL would be a good place to go next. IMO our DL is actually looking worse than our OL next year, but I would by no means complain if we address the o-line. The reason being that we will need to draft a QB of the future very soon considering McNabb's age. I want that QB to have a solid group of guys he can be protected by in his first couple of years he takes the field. I think that a young qb protected by a poor o-line could potentially ruin him. I don't know this for a fact because who is to say that the young qbs that had poor o-lines weren't just terrible from the start, but I think it is a possibility I would feel alot better if our future young qb was well protected.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:21 PM   #2
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Also wanted to say that there are no o-linemen worth taking where we are picking in the 1st of this upcoming draft. It would be good if we were able to pull a bellicheck and keep trading down to the low 1st, high second to pick a guard or center. We could accumulate enough picks to combine and trade to move up to the high 3rd and pick another guard/center. We could get 3 interior linemen in the first 70 picks.

Lastly wanted to say that there is zero percent chance this will happen. Shanny doesn't draft interior linemen high ever (he's not drafting a tackle because of williams and he traded for brown....who has sucked but Shanny keeps saying will be better next year when he is more healthy and adapts to the right side better). This year I wouldn't be shocked if he chose one in the first 2 rounds, but for him to pick multiple interior linemen high in the same draft is an impossibility in my mind. But a guy can dream, can't he?
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:29 PM   #3
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Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year

Turning this offensive line into a good one shouldn't be too difficult, as we've already done most of the painful part of rebuilding the line. A decision must be made on Jammal Brown. I think he's a good scheme fit, but not a particularly great player. There was a play on Sunday where the Redskins had the pass protection perfectly set up for McNabb to convert a third and long, and Brown had Tuck engaged and practically neutralized, only for Tuck to rip and overpower him and wind up on McNabb. That cannot happen.

If we don't re-sign Brown, we're going to need to use one of the top two picks (probably the second) on an OT. If we do re-sign Brown and admit that we're not looking to build a great line but rather a competent one, then we're already really close to rebuilt: cut Dockery, cut Rabach, cut Hicks. Then you have a starting line of [Trent Williams-Kory Lichtensteiger-Will Montgomery-Not on Roster-Jammal Brown]. That RG can either be a free agent (such as Davin Joseph), or a high draft choice, but it's the big hole on the line next season. If we DON'T resign Brown, we're two holes away.

For whatever reason, we kept a lot of dead weight on our roster this year. Hopefully guys like Capers and Cook are ready to be the depth we need to take over the roster spots of Rabach and Dockery and Hicks.
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:45 PM   #4
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Maybe I will ask both Sndyer to sell his team and Goodell to count the team as an expansion team moving to DC and we get to pick players off other teams and start to build like the Texans did.

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Old 12-09-2010, 12:02 AM   #5
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IMO it's better to draft the best player on the board at the time you pick. I liked the approach that Dennis Green took when he was rebuilding the Cardinals. He took the best players available, eventhough he wasn't around to see the fruits of his labor, the team he built eventually made it to the Superbowl.
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:50 PM   #6
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Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year

No, drafting all OL would not be practical. I want to turn this subject around. I think should only draft defense. Here is why.

The tackle position is set with Williams and Brown. Lets say Davin Joseph is signed.
Mike Williams returns to try and win back his spot at guard vs Hicks and Heyer. Lichtensteiger and Montgomery battle it out for Center.

At WR, Jacoby Jones is a FA in Houston and he should know the offense system. He would be an upgrade in size, also adding an extra return man for kickoffs. He is not having a great year in Houston, (but a better year than Joey Galloway + Roydell Williams is having) so he could come cheap. Also Kelly is a wild card. If there is no big name WR signed, it is safe to say the coaches have faith in him.

RB has been an issue this year mainly due to injuries. I think it is Torain's job to lose, Portis takes a pay cut and returns, along with the addition a Shanahan diamond in the rough.

TE and QB are set. Maybe a project QB is drafted, but that is currently Jon Beck's role.

So this brings us back to the draft. BPA at any position of DE, CB, LB, DT, & FS. Trading down should be utilized if grades are similar.

Then again, it will most likely be a mix of free agents and draft to fix the both sides of the ball. Some notable 3-4 FAs on D are:
DT: Haloti Ngata in Baltimore, Cullen Jenkins and Johnny Jolly in Green Bay.
LB: Tamba Hali - KC, Lamarr Woodley - Pittsburgh, Desmond Bishop - GB, David Harris- NYJ.
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No, drafting all OL would not be practical. I want to turn this subject around. I think should only draft defense. Here is why.

The tackle position is set with Williams and Brown. Lets say Davin Joseph is signed.
Mike Williams returns to try and win back his spot at guard vs Hicks and Heyer. Lichtensteiger and Montgomery battle it out for Center.

At WR, Jacoby Jones is a FA in Houston and he should know the offense system. He would be an upgrade in size, also adding an extra return man for kickoffs. He is not having a great year in Houston, (but a better year than Joey Galloway + Roydell Williams is having) so he could come cheap. Also Kelly is a wild card. If there is no big name WR signed, it is safe to say the coaches have faith in him.

RB has been an issue this year mainly due to injuries. I think Portis takes a pay cut and returns, along with the addition a Shanahan diamond in the rough.

TE and QB are set. Maybe a project QB is drafted, but that is currently Jon Beck's role.

So this brings us back to the draft. BPA at any position of DE, CB, LB, DT, & FS. Trading down should be utilized if grades are similar.

Then again, it will most likely be a mix of free agents and draft to fix the both sides of the ball. Some notable 3-4 FAs on D are:
DT: Haloti Ngata in Baltimore, Cullen Jenkins and Johnny Jolly in Green Bay.
LB: Tamba Hali - KC, Lamarr Woodley - Pittsburgh, Desmond Bishop - GB, David Harris- NYJ.
Good points. I would add that by season's end RB may not be determined by the staff as a high priority. I'm sure they would like to add a feature back, but this could turn out to be a decent 4 rb rotation; Torain & Davis as primary runners, CP & KW as 3rd down.
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Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year

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Then again, it will most likely be a mix of free agents and draft to fix the both sides of the ball. Some notable 3-4 FAs on D are:
DT: Haloti Ngata in Baltimore, Cullen Jenkins and Johnny Jolly in Green Bay.
LB: Tamba Hali - KC, Lamarr Woodley - Pittsburgh, Desmond Bishop - GB, David Harris- NYJ.
There is no way Ngata, Hali, and Harris' teams will let them walk away.. Those three players are big puzzle pieces in their defenses.. Although, if Harris or Ngata are in FA then I say go after them - those two players will be worth the money..
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