Is anyone else just absolutely disgusted with DM5's play?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree with your post 100%. He's made some awful decisions. I don't think he was worth a 2nd and a 4th, but I guess it was very important to Shanny to have a proven leader at QB while he implements his systems and his coaching style. And that's fine. But anyone who is still expecting McNabb to have some sort of Pro-bowl campaign while in burgundy and gold is smoking something.

I don't think he'll ever be anything better than average for us. And as to your point in bold, we need to get a young stud QB in here asap so he can sit a season or two behind McNabb before taking the reigns of this franchise.

I agree so if that's the case then you gotta wonder why they gave up the draft picks. Could've just kept JC, brought in Grossmam to compete and kept the picks. We'd probably have one less win.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I agree so if that's the case then you gotta wonder why they gave up the draft picks. Could've just kept JC, brought in Grossmam to compete and kept the picks. We'd probably have one less win.

Totally agree. I've said this before on here- one thing that Campbell has that McNabb doesn't is the ability to learn a system on the fly. McNabb has apparently really struggled to pick up what Kyle is putting down - so much so that both Shanahan's have been allegedly surprised and disappointed.

I don't think we'd be much better or much worse with Campbell and/or Grossman as a starter this season. And we'd still have two really important draft picks. I mean, McNabb has 15 picks to only 12 TDs, and a rating of 75.2 (3 points lower than JC's this season). Campbell's stats as a starter here were never that poor, and he learned a new system nearly every season. Just saying.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Totally agree. I've said this before on here- one thing that Campbell has that McNabb doesn't is the ability to learn a system on the fly. McNabb has apparently really struggled to pick up what Kyle is putting down - so much so that both Shanahan's have been allegedly surprised and disappointed.

I don't think we'd be much better or much worse with Campbell and/or Grossman as a starter this season. And we'd still have two really important draft picks. I mean, McNabb has 15 picks to only 12 TDs, and a rating of 75.2 (3 points lower than JC's this season). Campbell's stats as a starter here were never that poor, and he learned a new system nearly every season. Just saying.

I generally agree, however, the drama and angst that JC and the previous FO's had established here would have caused far more disruption. In fact, even though DM's play hasn't been stellar, I believe that attention is being more evenly focused, than if JC were here, and all the discussion revolved around his perceived deficiencies.

I hope we give DM another year to settle down, and more importantly build as best we can around him. Not that he will change who he is, but moreso he does not present a vivid reminder of the past malfeasance on the part of the FO.

I was pretty against DM when they brought him in, but not having the weekly JC bash/love threads has been one of the better parts of this season.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Totally agree. I've said this before on here- one thing that Campbell has that McNabb doesn't is the ability to learn a system on the fly. McNabb has apparently really struggled to pick up what Kyle is putting down - so much so that both Shanahan's have been allegedly surprised and disappointed.

I don't think we'd be much better or much worse with Campbell and/or Grossman as a starter this season. And we'd still have two really important draft picks. I mean, McNabb has 15 picks to only 12 TDs, and a rating of 75.2 (3 points lower than JC's this season). Campbell's stats as a starter here were never that poor, and he learned a new system nearly every season. Just saying.

What I'll say about this, really the only thing I can say without this turning into a JC vs. McNabb thread, is that for Campbell to actually have played mediocre enough to be replicating the numbers McNabb is currently putting up...would have fit in only with the side of the argument that thought "boy, we've certainly seen the best Campbell can give us."

Because, objectively, we were already getting this level of performance out of him. The argument for keeping him would have been that a guy 3 years from the peak of his career might have been capable of giving us more than he has. Or more than we're getting now. But we've never been a team to commit to youth that doesn't pay immediate dividends. Just be happy that Orakpo, Trent, and Landry all had big rookie years. Otherwise, they too would have been marginalized as "useless, but necessary" players.