Redskins vs Bucs GameDay Thread

[over the mountain]

patience. we knew this year we would have growing pains. imo things are coming together but it will take another offseason or two. we are in good hands, a complete turnover doesnt happen overnight.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

patience. we knew this year we would have growing pains. imo things are coming together but it will take another offseason or two. we are in good hands, a complete turnover doesnt happen overnight.

Totally disagree, OTM. First of all, if the Bucs didn't have a bad case of Carlos Rogers, the Redskins would have gotten hammered today! Hammered.

I am so god damned tired of some of you guys talking about patience, when this clown coaching us this year is no better than the clown we had last year. I'm sorry, but at $7 million per year Mike Shanahan is the most overrated over paid, over hyped coach in the NFL this year. It's one thing to be wildly optimistic tempered with some patience, it's another to have glaring deficiencies and flaws week in and week out. That's not a patience issue, that's a competence issue.

The personnel decisions have been questionable, the play calling and clock management has been suspect, and Shanny continues to feed us BS at every presser. I'm just not convinced that the talent level between mos NFL rosters, ours included, is that great.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Totally disagree, OTM. First of all, if the Bucs didn't have a bad case of Carlos Rogers, the Redskins would have gotten hammered today! Hammered.

I am so god damned tired of some of you guys talking about patience, when this clown coaching us this year is no better than the clown we had last year. I'm sorry, but at $7 million per year Mike Shanahan is the most overrated over paid, over hyped coach in the NFL this year. It's one thing to be wildly optimistic tempered with some patience, it's another to have glaring deficiencies and flaws week in and week out. That's not a patience issue, that's a competence issue.

The personnel decisions have been questionable, the play calling and clock management has been suspect, and Shanny continues to feed us BS at every presser. I'm just not convinced that the talent level between mos NFL rosters, ours included, is that great.

Didn't the Skins miss two field goals and drop a couple of interceptions?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Didn't the Skins miss two field goals and drop a couple of interceptions?

This is the part that bothers me the most... It seems like we can say this every single week. It would be one thing if it was a, "Oh! We just need another draft or another FA class." It just doesn't seem like the case. It just scares the crap outta' me that no matter who is here, who is GM, who is coach, what defense we run, who we play... the results just seem to be the same no matter what.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

This is the part that bothers me the most... It seems like we can say this every single week. It would be one thing if it was a, "Oh! We just need another draft or another FA class." It just doesn't seem like the case. It just scares the crap outta' me that no matter who is here, who is GM, who is coach, what defense we run, who we play... the results just seem to be the same no matter what.

It is plain and simple, the Danny is a win now type of guy and after Gibbs left and Mr Cooke died the organization went to hell. Norv did the best he could to keep the franchise competitive, and so did Marty in his one year stint ith us, but after the decent HCs lefts, we got gimmicks(Spurrier, Gibbs II), bad experiments(Zorn), and now an overrated HC. Sorry guys, but this guy had loads of talent post Elway and never got past a divsional title after John left. The whole thing is there needs to be a plng term plan in place to build a winner. THus far, I am not tht impressed with the Allen/Shanahan regime in Redskins Park. THey can rectify that by making a lot of solid moves in the offseason that tell me they do in fact have a solid plan in building a winner here.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

It is plain and simple, the Danny is a win now type of guy and after Gibbs left and Mr Cooke died the organization went to hell. Norv did the best he could to keep the franchise competitive, and so did Marty in his one year stint ith us, but after the decent HCs lefts, we got gimmicks(Spurrier, Gibbs II), bad experiments(Zorn), and now an overrated HC. Sorry guys, but this guy had loads of talent post Elway and never got past a divsional title after John left. The whole thing is there needs to be a plng term plan in place to build a winner. THus far, I am not tht impressed with the Allen/Shanahan regime in Redskins Park. THey can rectify that by making a lot of solid moves in the offseason that tell me they do in fact have a solid plan in building a winner here.

It's not even that, it's almost supernatural. I cannot think of another team that just has the plain bad luck that the Redskins have. I just can't even describe it.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Totally disagree, OTM. First of all, if the Bucs didn't have a bad case of Carlos Rogers, the Redskins would have gotten hammered today! Hammered.

I am so god damned tired of some of you guys talking about patience, when this clown coaching us this year is no better than the clown we had last year. I'm sorry, but at $7 million per year Mike Shanahan is the most overrated over paid, over hyped coach in the NFL this year. It's one thing to be wildly optimistic tempered with some patience, it's another to have glaring deficiencies and flaws week in and week out. That's not a patience issue, that's a competence issue.

The personnel decisions have been questionable, the play calling and clock management has been suspect, and Shanny continues to feed us BS at every presser. I'm just not convinced that the talent level between mos NFL rosters, ours included, is that great.

It's year 1 dude. Shanny is not responsible for the previous 20 years that have you and much of the fan base boiling over. He has been here for 13 games which for the most part he is playing with players he didn't select. How can we all criticise Snyder so much and then act just like we all accused him of acting?