Jim Zorn is ****ing Goofy! LOL

[warpaint]

He is his own man and I F-ing respect him. Atleast he aint a fake ass person.............

[30gut]

Originally Posted by warpaint

He is his own man and I F-ing respect him. Atleast he aint a fake ass person.............

bigtime +1
i've actually grown gained appreciation for both his coaching and his ability to tolerate the chaos that must have occured behind the scenes in Ashburn

Zorn had
less talent
less support from the FO
a younger less experienced coaching staff that was largerly leftover from a regime that ran a different system
Yet his passing offense was better in the 2 most important areas 3rd down and RZ and that's with Jason Campbell at QB and Levi Jones and an injured Stephon Heyer as bookend tackles)

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 30gut

bigtime +1
i've actually grown gained appreciation for both his coaching and his ability to tolerate the chaos that must have occured behind the scenes in Ashburn

Zorn had
less talent
less support from the FO
a younger less experienced coaching staff that was largerly leftover from a regime that ran a different system
Yet his passing offense was better in the 2 most important areas 3rd down and RZ and that's with Jason Campbell at QB and Levi Jones and an injured Stephon Heyer as bookend tackles)

Probably easily explained since Zorn's passing game was much more conservative, didn't try to go down the field hardly at all, and mostly involved short dump offs.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Probably easily explained since Zorn's passing game was much more conservative, didn't try to go down the field hardly at all, and mostly involved short dump offs.

Zorn actually did pass downfield his 1st season and part of his second season.
He ran a very traditional WCO w/ 3, 5 and 7 step drops.

I don't believe it was possible to pass downfield with Levi Jones and an injured Stephon Heyer as bookends and Zorn rightly made the correct adjustements. (I distinctly remember the Panthers game when Campbell got tackled from behind with no blitz doing the fake on a play-action pass as the end of the 5 step and beginning of the 3 step passing offense)

And Zorn's offense found away to control the clock and convert 3rd downs and was better in the RZ don't you agree that those are important areas?

Zorn's offense isn't unlike what the Ram's offense does w/ Bradford.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by 30gut

bigtime +1
i've actually grown gained appreciation for both his coaching and his ability to tolerate the chaos that must have occured behind the scenes in Ashburn

Zorn had
less talent
less support from the FO
a younger less experienced coaching staff that was largerly leftover from a regime that ran a different system
Yet his passing offense was better in the 2 most important areas 3rd down and RZ and that's with Jason Campbell at QB and Levi Jones and an injured Stephon Heyer as bookend tackles)

You know he & Spurrier both were operating w/dreadful personel on O. Both were put into ridiculously difficult positions. I'm not saying both didn't make problems as well, and both seemed unfit to lead an nfl team. But both guys could design an offense & I think could've been or can be O coordinators in the nfl.

Spurrier actually had his team 3-1 & moving the ball well w/Ramsey in 03. It didn't take long for it to fall apart, but if he'd become the Colts o coordinator would his system have failed? Despite the risk involved for the qb I think w/good personel he would score a lot.

Zorn had things going for half a season, but eventually good game planning gets figured out & if you don't have the personel to adapt you're screwed. He never should've been a head coach, but like others have said here, he's a stand up guy & he was dealt a pretty tough hand.