Michael Vick Wants to Get a Dog (Seriously)

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I dont think it is so much the stance of the NFL as much as it is the belief in the United States of America, and maybe the justice system. The fact is this country is one where you can get a second chance. That's the beauty of america. I'm patriotic. What I'm saying is that you can break the law, be punished, and if you have been truly rehabilitated, then you will leave prison and embrace your second chance at freedom and living a lawful life. Many people squander their second chance, but I love the USA because we are given a second chance.

In some countries, there is no second chance. And it is obvious that Vick has been truly rehabilitated, he is sorry for what he's done, paid his punishment, and now wants to live his life and continue doing what he loves (NFL Football).

I disagree with this statement. Vick is not rehabilitated. Prison is continually filled with repeat offenders who were once "rehabilitated" Why are they back? People don't want to hire ex cons. Ex cons are also barred from holding certain jobs period. Why was Vick able to make more of his second chance? He has genetically superior talents that other ex cons lack. He is intelligent enough to realize he has been given a second chance and will try not to screw it up. But rehabilitated? no way. You wouldn't allow a hand gun offender to go and purchase a gun, or a person who has been convicted of child abuse wouldn't be allowed to adopt a child. Very similar situation.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I disagree with this statement. Vick is not rehabilitated. Prison is continually filled with repeat offenders who were once "rehabilitated" Why are they back? People don't want to hire ex cons. Ex cons are also barred from holding certain jobs period. Why was Vick able to make more of his second chance? He has genetically superior talents that other ex cons lack. He is intelligent enough to realize he has been given a second chance and will try not to screw it up. But rehabilitated? no way. You wouldn't allow a hand gun offender to go and purchase a gun, or a person who has been convicted of child abuse wouldn't be allowed to adopt a child. Very similar situation.

So it's assured he's gonna start up another one of those dogfighting rings and once he pays off his creditors, there's going to be Bad Newz Kennelz 2.0. Gotcha. Because that's what he has to "rehab" out of his system.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

So it's assured he's gonna start up another one of those dogfighting rings and once he pays off his creditors, there's going to be Bad Newz Kennelz 2.0. Gotcha. Because that's what he has to "rehab" out of his system.

Generally, real rehabilitation requires more than merely "doing your time". It means exhibiting a change of heart over a long period of time such that people can reasonably and credibly trust that you will not relapse into the problem behavior. IMO, other than for long term prisoners, rehabilitation doesn't really even begin until a person reenters society. Only then can the individual begin to compile the evidence that they have had a true change of heart.

To me, that's the key for Vick. Let's see how he does after the fame and glory go away. Is he still concerned about doing the right thing? Does he maintain his good works? Only after an extended period of time can we tell if Vick has truly rehabilitated himself and agreed to conform to societal norms.

BTW - As others have stated, excellent post skinsnut. I particularly agree with point No. 3, and, also, with the NFL's hypocrisy when it comes to violent behavior.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Generally, real rehabilitation requires more than merely "doing your time". It means exhibiting a change of heart over a long period of time such that people can reasonably and credibly trust that you will not relapse into the problem behavior. IMO, other than for long term prisoners, rehabilitation doesn't really even begin until a person reenters society. Only then can the individual begin to compile the evidence that they have had a true change of heart.

To me, that's the key for Vick. Let's see how he does after the fame and glory go away. Is he still concerned about doing the right thing? Does he maintain his good works? Only after an extended period of time can we tell if Vick has truly rehabilitated himself and agreed to conform to societal norms.

BTW - As others have stated, excellent post skinsnut. I particularly agree with point No. 3, and, also, with the NFL's hypocrisy when it comes to violent behavior.

I'm quite aware of that. But fellas like you believe that he's so filthy that there is no hope for him. What about all the guys he grew up around who exposed him to such an environment? They need to have a fixing too. How shall that be implemented?