Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'll predict that Carolina passes on the opportunity to draft Ryan Mallett, taking instead A.J. Green first overall. Mallett gets drafted by the Bengals at no. 2.

Ryan Mallet reminds me of David Klingler.

[htownskinfan]

I just cant believe the mess ShanaASS has made of skins.I hope Snyder fires him after the season,theres no way anybody could be worse.But with the lockout looming along with ShanaASS's contract dont see it happening.Probably keep Haslett also.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I just cant believe the mess ShanaASS has made of skins.I hope Snyder fires him after the season,theres no way anybody could be worse.But with the lockout looming along with ShanaASS's contract dont see it happening.Probably keep Haslett also.

Fire Shanny after 1 season are you on crack or what? Thats exactley what the old Synder may have done but anyone that knows football you just dont hire and fire coach year after year and expect to be a winning team.

[wordsmithgk]

Losing faith in Shanahan very quickly. He seems like a very egomanical control freak with all his game playing/ He says he is going to be honest with McNabb as he moves forward with the qb evaluation. When has Shanahan been honest with anyone this year? I am weary of the mess that is the Redskins.

[wordsmithgk]

Not usually a fan of Matt Mosley at espn but he said McNabb will be fine in either Minnesota or Arizona but with Shanahan at the helm of the Redskins we cannot be so sure we will be. I think he may be right on this point.

[NYCSkin]

I can live with Shanny's demotion of McNabb. He wants to see if Rex can run the offense and perhaps be a bridge to our next drafted QB. I get that. His style may rub players the wrong way but if he gets us into the playoffs by 2012-then that's fine by me. He is not a coach who is going to bend his system to his players. It's going to be the other way around. Time will tell if that philosophy works or not.

However, Shanny the GM needs to be held accountable for the 2nd and 4th that he gave up for a one year McNabb rental. That's a Cerratoesque mistake. With this team needing players in almost every position--he can't afford to have misses like this.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

I can live with Shanny's demotion of McNabb. He wants to see if Rex can run the offense and perhaps be a bridge to our next drafted QB. I get that. His style may rub players the wrong way but if he gets us into the playoffs by 2012-then that's fine by me. He is not a coach who is going to bend his system to his players. It's going to be the other way around. Time will tell if that philosophy works or not.

However, Shanny the GM needs to be held accountable for the 2nd and 4th that he gave up for a one year McNabb rental. That's a Cerratoesque mistake. With this team needing players in almost every position--he can't afford to have misses like this.

Best 150 word summary of the situation yet.

[Kope]

I think what I am thinking is:

we havent had a real football team in DC since Marty left. That was the last time I really felt good about the skins direction as an organization. What I remember from that season was - Darrell Green being called out in Training camp and unhappy vets.

Since then it has been the just a couple of players away mentality.

We havent been able to get a plan together and stick to it long enough to make progress. Saint Joe came back to save the franchise, not (and there is a HUGE difference) to be the best coach he could be. Not that he didnt try relly hard, he just wasnt as commited as he was the first time. OBC and Zorny were horrid and out of thier league...now we have a legit coach who is still very hungry after being canned in Denver. Not that different than Marty.

I guess what I am saying is - this might be the "breaking" we need. This might be the event that really starts to clear the roster and change the culture of the team. I know that right now it looks and effing feels like the same old BS we have lived with....except one thing; as far as I can tell this is based on performance. I am actually glad we are evaluating for next year.

I am however well aware and gunshy of our last 8 years of clownassery that has put us in this position. As the eternal skins optomist I am actually pleased. as a realist I am dreading what this will lead to.

This drivel is what being a skins fan has reduced me to

[SFREDSKIN]

If only we could have hired Harbaugh instead of Shanahan.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Kope

I think what I am thinking is:

we havent had a real football team in DC since Marty left. That was the last time I really felt good about the skins direction as an organization. What I remember from that season was - Darrell Green being called out in Training camp and unhappy vets.

Since then it has been the just a couple of players away mentality.

We havent been able to get a plan together and stick to it long enough to make progress. Saint Joe came back to save the franchise, not (and there is a HUGE difference) to be the best coach he could be. Not that he didnt try relly hard, he just wasnt as commited as he was the first time. OBC and Zorny were horrid and out of thier league...now we have a legit coach who is still very hungry after being canned in Denver. Not that different than Marty.

I guess what I am saying is - this might be the "breaking" we need. This might be the event that really starts to clear the roster and change the culture of the team. I know that right now it looks and effing feels like the same old BS we have lived with....except one thing; as far as I can tell this is based on performance. I am actually glad we are evaluating for next year.

I am however well aware and gunshy of our last 8 years of clownassery that has put us in this position. As the eternal skins optomist I am actually pleased. as a realist I am dreading what this will lead to.

This drivel is what being a skins fan has reduced me to

The only problem with this is that grabbing McNabb was the new FO's own prerogative.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Kope

I think what I am thinking is:

we havent had a real football team in DC since Marty left. That was the last time I really felt good about the skins direction as an organization. What I remember from that season was - Darrell Green being called out in Training camp and unhappy vets.

Since then it has been the just a couple of players away mentality.

We havent been able to get a plan together and stick to it long enough to make progress. Saint Joe came back to save the franchise, not (and there is a HUGE difference) to be the best coach he could be. Not that he didnt try relly hard, he just wasnt as commited as he was the first time. OBC and Zorny were horrid and out of thier league...now we have a legit coach who is still very hungry after being canned in Denver. Not that different than Marty.

I guess what I am saying is - this might be the "breaking" we need. This might be the event that really starts to clear the roster and change the culture of the team. I know that right now it looks and effing feels like the same old BS we have lived with....except one thing; as far as I can tell this is based on performance. I am actually glad we are evaluating for next year.

I am however well aware and gunshy of our last 8 years of clownassery that has put us in this position. As the eternal skins optomist I am actually pleased. as a realist I am dreading what this will lead to.

This drivel is what being a skins fan has reduced me to

Very well said. This team needs a fanny-paddling in a fierce way.

For everyone who's "losing faith" in Shanahan, I wonder ... would you seriously prefer to see him fired, keep the locker room intact, and start over again next year with the same players but yet another head coach? Outside of Dan Snyder, there's been one constant for the past 5-6 years or so -- and that's a core of players that has never really lived up to expectations. We have few players who are young with a lot of potential, (Landry, Orakpo, Torain) but apart from them, it's time to move on ...

Everybody else? If he's "lost them," so be it.

[Bucket]

Many of the top coaches run their teams like Shanny is now. He is looking for the most prefessional and devotred players to play for his team.

Patriots
Steelers
Colts

All of these teams run the same way, and Shanny is doing no different in Washington. It's his way! To many times have we brought Vets in here to collect paychecks on the low end of their career.

We had a chance to bring a known great QB from our OWN division, and we made a move on him. We gave up some picks because what else did we have to offer that the eagles wanted? We have little talent on both sides of the ball, and are ina big rebuilding stage.

Shanny is looking for devoted players who are here to help build a TEAM. Not just a bunch of broken down vets. Mcnabb didn't work out, and now we move on.. Shit happens.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Rex does this week. It can't get any worse then what we've already seen? I was watching the breakdown of film on NFL.com and saw how many open WR Mcnabb has been missing all year. He missed a wide open Moss in the endzone last week and foreced a low pass into double coverage instead. He wasn't doing that shit in Philly.. He can't learn the offense, and Rex thinks he can.

Give Rex a shot, and let's see what he can do. We are 5-8... Not 8-5

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Many of the top coaches run their teams like Shanny is now. He is looking for the most prefessional and devotred players to play for his team.

Patriots
Steelers
Colts

Patriots I can kind of see the parallels. The Steelers to. However I have no idea how you came up with the Colts who up until recently have been run by mild mannered Tony Dungy and since then has been replaced by soft spoken Jim Caldwell.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Many of the top coaches run their teams like Shanny is now. He is looking for the most prefessional and devotred players to play for his team.

Patriots
Steelers
Colts

All of these teams run the same way, and Shanny is doing no different in Washington. It's his way! To many times have we brought Vets in here to collect paychecks on the low end of their career.

We had a chance to bring a known great QB from our OWN division, and we made a move on him. We gave up some picks because what else did we have to offer that the eagles wanted? We have little talent on both sides of the ball, and are ina big rebuilding stage.

Shanny is looking for devoted players who are here to help build a TEAM. Not just a bunch of broken down vets. Mcnabb didn't work out, and now we move on.. Shit happens.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Rex does this week. It can't get any worse then what we've already seen? I was watching the breakdown of film on NFL.com and saw how many open WR Mcnabb has been missing all year. He missed a wide open Moss in the endzone last week and foreced a low pass into double coverage instead. He wasn't doing that shit in Philly.. He can't learn the offense, and Rex thinks he can.

Give Rex a shot, and let's see what he can do. We are 5-8... Not 8-5

I think your post makes way to much sense to survive these chaotic times. One of us may have to move to the drunk thread......

[Bucket]

Maybe we will see this Rex on Sunday!