Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

[47FAN]

Mcnabb hasnt played very good so why not? i guess we will see just how good or bad of a call this is

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by 47FAN

Mcnabb hasnt played very good so why not? i guess we will see just how good or bad of a call this is

he is 5th, i think, in passing yards right now. he isn't playing great but a lot of this has to do with play calling. it's not the fact that this may or maynot be a bad call it's the fact that it is now obvious that there is no plan in place for the future of this team. and thats the scary part.

[47FAN]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

he is 5th, i think, in passing yards right now. he isn't playing great but a lot of this has to do with play calling. it's not the fact that this may or maynot be a bad call it's the fact that it is now obvious that there is no plan in place for the future of this team. and thats the scary part.

i agree with not having a plan but i guess all the low passes just get to me when the reciever is wide open and afterward he just points at his self like my fault it gets old

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by 47FAN

i agree with not having a plan but i guess all the low passes just get to me when the reciever is wide open and afterward he just points at his self like my fault it gets old

it does get old when he misses an open receiver but there is 11 years of film on him doing that, and there is also 11 years of film of him tearing teams apart with average receivers. he has not had a stellar year but considering everything it really hasn't been that bad.

this is just hard to take as a fan, this team just cannot get out of it's own way...

[GMScud]

I think this pretty much cements the fact that Shanahan's regime has been a big disappointment thus far.

While I'd be stunned if The Danny axed him after just one year, it's safe to say MS hasn't really given us anything other than his big name.

Is it me, or does this season feel even worse than last year? I mean, last year it didn't take long for things to unravel into a comical circus that we all knew would end, and that at least gave us some promise for sweeping changes in 2010.

Now those changes have been instituted in what was the biggest organizational change since Danny bought the team, and the result? Well... Shanahan is going to need more than one year, but I'm not optimistic anymore.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I think this pretty much cements the fact that Shanahan regime has been a big disappointment thus far.

While I'd be stunned if The Danny axed him after just one year, it's safe to say MS hasn't really given us anything other than his big name.

Is it me, or does this season feel even worse than last year? I mean, last year it didn't take long for things to unravel into a comical circus that we all knew would end, and that at least gave us some promise for sweeping changes in 2010.
Now those changes have been instituted in what was the biggest organizational change since Danny bought the team, and the result? Well... Shanahan is going to need more than one year, but I'm not optimistic anymore.

i have felt right on with 90% of your post this season. this year to me has been worse. i didn't expect to win 10 games or anything, i just expected to look somewhat competitive and have a god damn plan of action in place. i could have made better moves with this team this year...

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i have felt right on with 90% of your post this season. this year to me has been worse. i didn't expect to win 10 games or anything, i just expected to look somewhat competitive and have a god damn plan of action in place. i could have made better moves with this team this year...

Well, we didn't set any set records last year. Now Sheli and the Eagles all have something to brag about 50 years from now.

[WilbursHomie]

So does this mean we're drafting a QB or going out to get another free agent?

I'm no Professional football coach and tend to assume that no matter how weird the decision, they must know better than us what's good for the team, since it's their job and all. But at this point I feel comfortable wondering if anyone else thinks Shanny's personnel and defensive scheme decisions this year have been borderline brain retarded. It's not even just the benching of McNabb, it's the entire handling of our players that I think at the least a seasoned staff would be able to do well. Wins and Losses aside. It all seems kind of amateur.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I think this pretty much cements the fact that Shanahan's regime has been a big disappointment thus far.

While I'd be stunned if The Danny axed him after just one year, it's safe to say MS hasn't really given us anything other than his big name.

Is it me, or does this season feel even worse than last year? I mean, last year it didn't take long for things to unravel into a comical circus that we all knew would end, and that at least gave us some promise for sweeping changes in 2010.

Now those changes have been instituted in what was the biggest organizational change since Danny bought the team, and the result? Well... Shanahan is going to need more than one year, but I'm not optimistic anymore.

That's why I wasn't willing to paint Shanahan our savior just because of the resume he brought. I said when he was hired, he hasn't done anything for the Redskins yet, and until he does, he's just another coach that was going to have to prove himself. So far, not so good.

[#56fanatic]

Leave it to the Washington Redskins to F up these situations. First, the defense situation. Taking a perfectly run 4-3 and switching to something not having the players. Then taking the best Dlineman you have and one of the best in the league and totally screw that up. (not saying Albert is right on this, but you have a really good front 4 with AH playing full time and being more aggressive, but instead you switch to something that we dont have the players for) I am glad AH is suspended, but leave it to us to screw up a player that was DOMINANT. Now you take a 2nd round and what ever other round pick for a Hall of Fame QB, and completely ruin this by benching him. To say this is McNabbs issue, or his fault is a complete joke. This organization has completely ignored the most important aspect of a winning football team for longer than a decade, THE OFFENSIVE LINE. I dont care who you have behind center in this organization, they would not be doing anything better than the previous QB's that have been here. Can we not see what is going on. Every QB that has been under Danny and Vinnys watch has failed miserably. Eventually you look at the common denominator in all this and its the front office in ability to draft quality offensive lineman. The RB and QB are only as good as the "fat guys" up front. (Smoot's words) We have to be the most ingnorant run organization in the NFL. Shanny lost quite a few players with the whole AH situation, now he is losing even more with the McNabb benching. I am sure he will be losing quite a few fans over this crap. It is absolutely ridiculous. The guy may not be having a probowl year, but look at what he is doing behind one of the worst offensive lines in football. 4K passing yards, most in his career, may have played in all 16 games for the 1st time in his career, have basically zero running game (except last week, but TB stopped it in the 2nd half)
it is crap!

[WilbursHomie]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Leave it to the Washington Redskins to F up these situations. First, the defense situation. Taking a perfectly run 4-3 and switching to something not having the players. Then taking the best Dlineman you have and one of the best in the league and totally screw that up. (not saying Albert is right on this, but you have a really good front 4 with AH playing full time and being more aggressive, but instead you switch to something that we dont have the players for) I am glad AH is suspended, but leave it to us to screw up a player that was DOMINANT. Now you take a 2nd round and what ever other round pick for a Hall of Fame QB, and completely ruin this by benching him. To say this is McNabbs issue, or his fault is a complete joke. This organization has completely ignored the most important aspect of a winning football team for longer than a decade, THE OFFENSIVE LINE. I dont care who you have behind center in this organization, they would not be doing anything better than the previous QB's that have been here. Can we not see what is going on. Every QB that has been under Danny and Vinnys watch has failed miserably. Eventually you look at the common denominator in all this and its the front office in ability to draft quality offensive lineman. The RB and QB are only as good as the "fat guys" up front. (Smoot's words) We have to be the most ingnorant run organization in the NFL. Shanny lost quite a few players with the whole AH situation, now he is losing even more with the McNabb benching. I am sure he will be losing quite a few fans over this crap. It is absolutely ridiculous. The guy may not be having a probowl year, but look at what he is doing behind one of the worst offensive lines in football. 4K passing yards, most in his career, may have played in all 16 games for the 1st time in his career, have basically zero running game (except last week, but TB stopped it in the 2nd half)
it is crap!

Exactly, with no O line, it doesn't matter. Now what kills me is with the picks we gave up for McNabb we could have fixed our entire O line problem in one draft next year and been on our way to recovery.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by WilbursHomie

Exactly, with no O line, it doesn't matter. Now what kills me is with the picks we gave up for McNabb we could have fixed our entire O line problem in one draft next year and been on our way to recovery.

There have been many times where he's had good protection and he's throwing late or into the ground. I haven't see DM throw anyone open this year. The wr's are always reaching back or jumping up high to catch balls. Don't have a problem with them benching him, it's how they handle it that pisses me off.

[WilbursHomie]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

There have been many times where he's had good protection and he's throwing late or into the ground. I haven't see DM throw anyone open this year. The wr's are always reaching back or jumping up high to catch balls. Don't have a problem with them benching him, it's how they handle it that pisses me off.

Oh yeah, McNabb has definitely not played well and hell, in the Tennessee game he had LOADS of time to throw and the O line looked pretty good and he was all over the place. But on the whole it's not a good O line. Especially in the depth department. My problem is the same as yours, I'm baffled at the whole process, from the original trade, to the benching, to the extension, now to the basic firing. It's not the benching of a poor player that erks me, it's the benching of a player we gave up 2 draft picks for and just re signed. Doesn't seem like the habits of a 2 time super bowl winning coach.

Basically this year we payed Albert about 24 mil for 8 games playing about 15 plays per game and a 3.4 mil bonus for Donovan to play 3 or 4 poor games. That's got to be some of the easiest money ever made in the history of man.

[skinsfaninok]

This entire organization has become an epic fail, what a ****ing joke

[skinsfaninok]

Something behind the scenes had to of happened, there is no way MS/BA would give up a 2nd round pick for a QB to play 13 games, yes Mcnabb hasn't played very good but it's far from his fault, he has Bo WRs, No Run game and a shaky at beat OL. Williams is a stud but everyone else is avg at best. I do t understand this team anymore, who cares what they do **** them as a whole organization!