Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I wonder what the reaction on this board would have been had this been around when Gibbs used to switch up Schroeder and Williams. Not saying it's the same thing but I'm always curious about that

I'm sure there would have been a ton of controversy about that. I would think most would have been on DW's side, classier guy, always seemed to come through in the clutch. But that's easy to say in hindsight.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm sure there would have been a ton of controversy about that. I would think most would have been on DW's side, classier guy, always seemed to come through in the clutch. But that's easy to say in hindsight.

How about benching Williams for Rypien?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How about benching Williams for Rypien?

Yeah that would have been a shit storm, especially with how erratic Ryp was before he put it all together

[skinsfaninok]

The last QB to wear 8 for us played very well in his time as a starter.. Who knows maybe Rex does the same, the guy did play in a SuperBowl.

[44 70 chip]

I think this move is more evidence that McNabb wasn't Shanahans idea to begin with.

No one wants to hear it, but McNabb had Snyder written all over it. So did Larry Johnson and Willy Parker, Larry Johnson got what a half cup of coffee as a starter and a quick dismissal the moment he did something stupid?

Let put it this way, lets play a match game keep an open mind lets assign past history to Snyder and Shanahan, you put the historical tendency or move in the correct collumn.

Shanahan:

Snyder:


There's our Shanahan column and Snyder column now match these up and put them in each column:

Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Signs big name free agents all the time
Gets the better in trades
Overpays in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis

now match um up.

[44 70 chip]

Okay no ones gonna actually match them up so let me continue my narrative:

Snyder:
Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Signs big name free agents all the time
Overpays in trades
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis

Shanahan:
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Gets the better in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's

Now lets put McNabb Willy Parker and Larry Johnson on one column or the other...

Shanahan:
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Gets the better in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's
Traded 2nd and 4th round picks for McNabb
Signed Larry Johnson
Signed Willy Parker

OPPS time to play "one of these is not like the other"! On the other hand:

Snyder:
Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Signs big name free agents all the time
Overpays in trades
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis
Traded 2nd and 4th round picks for McNabb
Signed Larry Johnson
Signed Willy Parker

Ahhhh perfect fit....

Yes I know many of you are holding out hope that BA and Shanahan represented Snyder "turning a corner" "learning his lesson" or "handing over the reigns to the football people".

But I can't help but conclude that all circumstantial evidence and both persons "MO's" -- Especially given how McNabb and both runners have been handled by Shanahan -- point to Snyder's fingers still in the cookie Jar.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by 44 70 chip

Okay no ones gonna actually match them up so let me continue my narrative:

Snyder:
Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Signs big name free agents all the time
Overpays in trades
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis

Shanahan:
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Gets the better in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's

Now lets put McNabb Willy Parker and Larry Johnson on one column or the other...

Shanahan:
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Gets the better in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's
Traded 2nd and 4th round picks for McNabb
Signed Larry Johnson
Signed Willy Parker

OPPS time to play "one of these is not like the other"! On the other hand:

Snyder:
Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Signs big name free agents all the time
Overpays in trades
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis
Traded 2nd and 4th round picks for McNabb
Signed Larry Johnson
Signed Willy Parker

Ahhhh perfect fit....

Yes I know many of you are holding out hope that BA and Shanahan represented Snyder "turning a corner" "learning his lesson" or "handing over the reigns to the football people".

But I can't help but conclude that all circumstantial evidence and both persons "MO's" -- Especially given how McNabb and both runners have been handled by Shanahan -- point to Snyder's fingers still in the cookie Jar.

Oh? It's not like Shanahan is flawless.
The entire Cleveland Browns defensive line.
Ron Dayne
The second highest-payroll in NFL history in 2001. (We have the record and the third-highest.


BTW, if Snyder really had a say, Haynesworth would not have been suspended.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Oh? It's not like Shanahan is flawless.
The entire Cleveland Browns defensive line.
Ron Dayne
The second highest-payroll in NFL history in 2001. (We have the record and the third-highest.


BTW, if Snyder really had a say, Haynesworth would not have been suspended.

Nuff said right there.

Not too hard to see that Snyder isn't pulling the strings anymore.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Oh? It's not like Shanahan is flawless.
The entire Cleveland Browns defensive line.
Ron Dayne
The second highest-payroll in NFL history in 2001. (We have the record and the third-highest.


BTW, if Snyder really had a say, Haynesworth would not have been suspended.

Don't forget Maurice Clarett.