Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Its hard to keep hearing all the apologists on the last few pages for what Shanny has done. McNabb is a future Hall of Fame QB. I just can't believe that the Redskins treat him this way. Shanny's reasons is for the organization to see what Rex and Beck have. He says McNabb couldn't do anything to change the way he views McNabb, well what is he going to see from Rex or Beck in 3 games that would lead him to a good decision. I just can't get over how it is a complete circus at Redskins park, EVERY damn year. How is it people just can't see that the decade of ignoring the "big fellas" upfront is what has been this organizations downfall. HOW FREAKING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND. The constant switching and moving of offensive line, the free agent additions, only to have them move on the next year. Teams that win in this league have an offensive line of guys that build a chemistry together of several years. Are young well thought out draft picks, instead of on the fly FA pickups. Someone mentioned Phillip Rivers throwing to lesser known receivers, well guess what, this is the NFL and if a QB has more that a few seconds to hit a receiver they should be able to get open. We have no offensive line, and when McNabb has time, just like Campbell, Just like ole Lefty Brunell, when given time these QB's can find someone open. But when you consistanty have a fat ass lineman breathing down your neck or running full blast down your sights, that is a little hard to complete passes. Look, you can bring Peyton , or Brady or who ever you want, if they stand behind this cast of characters we have on the oline, use RB's for a running game we have to use, they WILL NOT be successful either. It is a proven fact. Look at the games the colts lose or the patriots loose. Watch how much middle pressure is put on Peyton, if they are getting to him, then he throws several picks and gets sacked a few times, same with Brady. The fact that these teams consistanty win is they have the big guys up front that keep the QB's uniforms clean, allowing them to make the throws and put points on the board. We haven't been able to keep a QB upright in a all most a decade. Go back to when we won the division with Norv. We had a young Samuels, a young Jansen, some decent guys upfront with Stephen Davis. Until someone in this damn organization stands up and drafts guys for the lines, we will continue to see the same results we have been for the next decade.

How freaking hard is it to understand that Shanahan didn't have enough draft picks to fix the offensive line overnight? Shanahan spent the highest draft pick he had on the most important position on the line. He brought in a mix of veteran free agents for the rest of the positions, and shuffled guys around sometimes due to injury, other times due to poor performance to find out what works best.

Obviously the coaches saw things on film from McNabb which caused them to believe he wasn't making the right decisions despite protection from the line. And to be fair -- the protection up front has been better at times this year. It's amazing to hear so many fans so livid over the benching of a guy who hasn't played well.

And I wouldn't say McNabb is a lock for the Hall of Fame.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

How freaking hard is it to understand that Shanahan didn't have enough draft picks to fix the offensive line overnight? Shanahan spent the highest draft pick he had on the most important position on the line. He brought in a mix of veteran free agents for the rest of the positions, and shuffled guys around sometimes due to injury, other times due to poor performance to find out what works best.

Obviously the coaches saw things on film from McNabb which caused them to believe he wasn't making the right decisions despite protection from the line. And to be fair -- the protection up front has been better at times this year. It's amazing to hear so many fans so livid over the benching of a guy who hasn't played well.

And I wouldn't say McNabb is a lock for the Hall of Fame.

you are missing my point. I didn't expect the offensive line to be fixed in one season. I made a point to say its been overlooked for the better part of 10 years. You made my point exactly, we continue to bring in FA's and mix match olineman every year instead of addressing the needs through the draft over the last few years. The coaches bringing McNabb into the mix this year should have been evaluated before bringing him hear then saying he isn't a right fit. I mean the guy has been in the league for 11 years, dont you think there is enough information on McNabb to make that decision before wasting a 2nd and 4th round draft picks? It isn't a coinsodence(SP) the QB play here has been suspect over the last 10 years when the common denominator in the equation has been the horrible offensive line. I didn't nor do I think the oline is fixable in 1 year, it needs a few drafts to get this thing in order. Every year our QB's are sacked, hit, hurried as much or more than any QB in the league. To place the blame on a QB every year is getting old. I mean, Campbell seems to be playing pretty decent in Oakland with a decent oline and a decent running game. They are winning games against division rivals and in the hunt for a playoff berth.
I am not blaming Shanny for everything, however how he has handled certain situations is suspect at best.

[juskins]

The O-Line has made great improvements from years past. I see their down falls from a combination of placing guys in situations that they cannot progress beyond the linesman's natural abilities.

I wonder if Rabach and Brown fit in the above assessment. They both are physical and good man-on man type players, but can they move fast enough to play in this scheme. Most of the pieces are there and I am sure they will fine tuned this offensive line to the scheme's liking. Coaches keep their jobs because they know from experience what works for their brand of football.