Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts

CooleyAsCanBe · 04-07-2005, 04:01 PM

Having said all that in defense of Taylor, my favorite player on the roster right now is still Cooley. He is no "beast." But a smart, consistent, good character guy.

MTK · 04-07-2005, 04:03 PM

Taylor had a pretty solid rookie season.

Did he make some mistakes, sure, what rookies don't?

He also created some turnovers, had some nice hits, and was an intimidating presence in the defensive backfield.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 04:04 PM

Exactly. I can't wait to see how much he's matured this season. If there is anyone who has a coaching staff to help that process, it's Washington.

mooby · 04-07-2005, 04:07 PM

its amazing how nobody has mentioned the game against the vikings. didn't anyone see when the vikings had the ball on our 1 yard line and sean taylor stuffed michael bennett up the middle when he tried to run it in. or his interceptions that helped against the 49ers and clinched the game against the bears. its wondrous how everyone attacks his bad plays, but never mentions his good ones.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 04:08 PM

I think it was Moe Williams that he stopped and that's an even BIGGER feat. Moe is a beast himself.

CooleyAsCanBe · 04-07-2005, 04:13 PM

Good call Mooby. He was great in that game.

Either way, SC still has a point. Taylor still needs improve on wrapping up in many tackles. We don't want his flying past the guy with the ball the way Lavar has over the years. Fundamentals are important.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 04:16 PM

It might just be me, but I always thought he looked like he wrapped up for most of his tackles. Of course he wasn't perfect, but I thought more often than not he was fundamentally sound in his tackling.

Balmerskinsfan · 04-07-2005, 04:51 PM

Every time Ade Jimoh is in a game, you can count on a long completion to the guy he's guarding. Jimoh is a B-U-M bum.

skinsguy · 04-07-2005, 05:08 PM

Wow, this story sure brought everybody out of the wood work! It is disappointing not to see both these guys at the voluntary workouts....we do need to keep in perspective that there might be more to the story than what we are hearing from the media.

That Guy · 04-07-2005, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC

Now, check out Dallas II. Who is the guy playing safety in a deep cover-2 in the final minute whose job it is not to let anyone behind him? HInt: He wears #36. He gets lured into watching the backfield and doesn't get to double the WR deep when Springs thinks he has deep help. Result: Winning TD. This is with less than a minute to play and the Cowboys in their own territory and out of timeouts and needing a TD. Hard to blame anyone else for that one.

Now, go check out the other 59minutes of that game and tell me that's not why we lost instead :P one bad play can cost you the game, but only in concert with many other bad plays.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 04-07-2005, 07:19 PM

I don't have a problem with ST's abilities, but I think everyone can agree that he needs to improve in certain areas, regardless of whether he's behind, ahead of, or right at the curve for the development of a rookie/2nd year player. That's the point though, he does need to improve and he does need to get on the same page as the rest of the D, and these workouts are, at least in part, designed for that. I'm sorry, but until he wins NFL Defensive player of the year honors, he needs to be at the workouts and camps working on his game because he's obviously not without fault yet.
I just think things like this are very telling with respect to a guy's character and what you can expect from him. They're also often a result of the program and college that they came from.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 04-07-2005, 07:23 PM

Any chance we could trade Moss? LOL

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 07:35 PM

I really do think he could pan out. I'm not counting him out already, I just think it's a very unclassy move on his part to not come to workouts.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 08:30 PM

If I'm not mistaken, Taylor is working out with the rest of the Miami players in Florida. Again, I WOULD prefer him to be with the team, but I think it's a Miami tradition (even though Portis is with the team).

Moss really has no excuse.

Daseal · 04-07-2005, 08:53 PM

Uh - guess who else went to Miami, Malcolm. Yep - you got i!

That being said the QB-WR connection is much more important.

Sean Taylor has a ways to go, but I wouldn't trade him for Ed Reed man for man right now. I think he is an overall better player, and will soon eclipse Reed. That's just my opinion.

SC - With the #5 pick last year - what would you have done with it? Gone Winslow, trade down, Taylor? What? I'm just curious.

04-07-2005, 04:01 PM	#1
CooleyAsCanBe Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 49 Posts: 421	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Having said all that in defense of Taylor, my favorite player on the roster right now is still Cooley. He is no "beast." But a smart, consistent, good character guy.

04-07-2005, 04:03 PM	#2
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Taylor had a pretty solid rookie season. Did he make some mistakes, sure, what rookies don't? He also created some turnovers, had some nice hits, and was an intimidating presence in the defensive backfield. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-07-2005, 04:07 PM	#4
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,596	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts its amazing how nobody has mentioned the game against the vikings. didn't anyone see when the vikings had the ball on our 1 yard line and sean taylor stuffed michael bennett up the middle when he tried to run it in. or his interceptions that helped against the 49ers and clinched the game against the bears. its wondrous how everyone attacks his bad plays, but never mentions his good ones. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

04-07-2005, 04:13 PM	#6
CooleyAsCanBe Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 49 Posts: 421	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Good call Mooby. He was great in that game. Either way, SC still has a point. Taylor still needs improve on wrapping up in many tackles. We don't want his flying past the guy with the ball the way Lavar has over the years. Fundamentals are important.

04-07-2005, 04:16 PM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts It might just be me, but I always thought he looked like he wrapped up for most of his tackles. Of course he wasn't perfect, but I thought more often than not he was fundamentally sound in his tackling. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-07-2005, 04:04 PM	#3
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Exactly. I can't wait to see how much he's matured this season. If there is anyone who has a coaching staff to help that process, it's Washington. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-07-2005, 04:08 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts I think it was Moe Williams that he stopped and that's an even BIGGER feat. Moe is a beast himself. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-07-2005, 04:51 PM	#8
Balmerskinsfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 66	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Every time Ade Jimoh is in a game, you can count on a long completion to the guy he's guarding. Jimoh is a B-U-M bum.

04-07-2005, 05:08 PM	#9
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Wow, this story sure brought everybody out of the wood work! It is disappointing not to see both these guys at the voluntary workouts....we do need to keep in perspective that there might be more to the story than what we are hearing from the media. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

04-07-2005, 07:19 PM	#11
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 49 Posts: 1,340	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts I don't have a problem with ST's abilities, but I think everyone can agree that he needs to improve in certain areas, regardless of whether he's behind, ahead of, or right at the curve for the development of a rookie/2nd year player. That's the point though, he does need to improve and he does need to get on the same page as the rest of the D, and these workouts are, at least in part, designed for that. I'm sorry, but until he wins NFL Defensive player of the year honors, he needs to be at the workouts and camps working on his game because he's obviously not without fault yet. I just think things like this are very telling with respect to a guy's character and what you can expect from him. They're also often a result of the program and college that they came from. __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

04-07-2005, 07:23 PM	#12
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 49 Posts: 1,340	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Any chance we could trade Moss? LOL __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

04-07-2005, 07:35 PM	#13
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts I really do think he could pan out. I'm not counting him out already, I just think it's a very unclassy move on his part to not come to workouts. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-07-2005, 08:30 PM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts If I'm not mistaken, Taylor is working out with the rest of the Miami players in Florida. Again, I WOULD prefer him to be with the team, but I think it's a Miami tradition (even though Portis is with the team). Moss really has no excuse. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-07-2005, 08:53 PM	#15
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	Re: Taylor, Moss Miss Redskins Workouts Uh - guess who else went to Miami, Malcolm. Yep - you got i! That being said the QB-WR connection is much more important. Sean Taylor has a ways to go, but I wouldn't trade him for Ed Reed man for man right now. I think he is an overall better player, and will soon eclipse Reed. That's just my opinion. SC - With the #5 pick last year - what would you have done with it? Gone Winslow, trade down, Taylor? What? I'm just curious. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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