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Old 04-07-2005, 09:44 PM   #1
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Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out??

Most definitely.

And yeah, it probably WOULD have been Dillon. I still think that Portis could come close to 2000 yards next year with the type of rejuvenated line we have. Rabach is all-pro quality. Jansen IS an all-pro and Samuels on the other side. I'm excited to see the holes that will open up with a healthy line.

AND being the running team we are, I think it's very possible he could finish with 1800-2000 yards.
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Old 04-07-2005, 10:46 PM   #2
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Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out??

A few points of clarification here:

Portis' agent is Drew Rosenhaus. What happens here if Portis rushes for 1800 yards and 15 TDs? My guess is a hold-out looking for a restructured contract... In fact, I don't think it would take a monstrous season like that for Ports to want a new deal. Don't rule out the possibility that it happens sooner rather than later.


The Eagles did indeed let Trotter, Douglas and Emmons go. Interestingly, Trotter and Douglas were mediocre with the teams that spent big bucks to get them and are now back with the Eagles for FAR less than they asked for in the first place. And Emmons has been replaced by Dhani Jones without a humongous drop in effectiveness. So, maybe Joe Banner is a stubborn SOB; or maybe he and the coaching staff there are far more insightful into talent levels and team chemistry than most other teams? Hard to tell from afar... The handling of the TO situation may give us some clues here.

BTW, the Eagles are on the verge of trading Cory Simon to the Ravens for a second round pick this year and a third and fifth next year. Simon is the Eagles' designated "franchise player". So for all the folks here who think that putting a franchise tag on a player brings back two first round picks, here is yet another example to show that it rarely happens that way.


Someone talked about the "Orlando Pace fiasco". How did Pace suffer from the Postons' representation? He was the Rams' franchise player meaning he had one year deals making him $8M a year or more. That is hardly someone who has been hosed by his representation. Now he has a long term deal - - which really means he got a bigger signing bonus and took lower annual salaries for the term of the deal. If he gets run over by a bus next week, he did better by getting the signing bonus; if not, it is probably a wash.
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Old 04-08-2005, 12:02 AM   #3
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Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out??

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A few points of clarification here:

Portis' agent is Drew Rosenhaus. What happens here if Portis rushes for 1800 yards and 15 TDs? My guess is a hold-out looking for a restructured contract... In fact, I don't think it would take a monstrous season like that for Ports to want a new deal. Don't rule out the possibility that it happens sooner rather than later.
well, i thought he was one of the highest paid backs in the league (if not the highest for total contract value), and when he signed that contract he was expecting 1500-1600 yards every year... so i guess i would be a bit surprised if 200 yards sends him into a fit for millions more a year...
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Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out??

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The Eagles did indeed let Trotter, Douglas and Emmons go. Interestingly, Trotter and Douglas were mediocre with the teams that spent big bucks to get them and are now back with the Eagles for FAR less than they asked for in the first place. And Emmons has been replaced by Dhani Jones without a humongous drop in effectiveness. So, maybe Joe Banner is a stubborn SOB; or maybe he and the coaching staff there are far more insightful into talent levels and team chemistry than most other teams? Hard to tell from afar... The handling of the TO situation may give us some clues here.
Absolutely agree. I use the term "stubborn SOB" as a compliment here because he's a guy that won't pay anyone more than they are really worth. Period. He doesn't care what the name on the back of the jersey says......or at least he hasn't so far. Only time will tell I guess.

And the word around Eagle-land is that the Simon deal is all but dead. He's probably not going anywhere........of course that could change by tomorrow.
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Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out??

When he signed the contract he was the highest paid back in the league - 2 weeks later LT got his contract and bumped him to #2. Not sure where he is now, but not farther down than #5 among RBs.
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Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out??

Hopefully Gibbs can instill some of that kind of "hard-assedness" in Snyder. So far, it's working. He's a showing a little restraint.
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Old 04-08-2005, 09:09 AM   #7
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Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out??

Its funny how things can sometimes go full-circle.

Weren't people spending so much time praising the eagles for being so fiscally responsible? Turns out they are treading the line between prudent and cheap because it seems like they have some grumbling pussies on their team now.
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