Mike Singletary Fired

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by irish

The problem with Gibbs 2.0 was that he gave away loads of draft picks that should now be contributing members of the Redskins. His record is what it is, its has lasting "legacy" of giving away draft picks thats really coming back to bite the organization now.

You are over simplifying the so called problem. Even when we had draft picks, we picked poorly. What good are draft picks if you have Vinny Cerrato and Snyder weighing on the decision. For example, the 2008 where we had 10 draft picks, not a single player is note worthy. Only Kareem Moore and Fred Davis are just now starting to make some noise. The rest are all gone or on IR.
The problem was not that we did not have enough draft picks. It was poor player evaluation/management. Proof is even the FA we signed sucked. Truth is Gibbs turned over a playoff to team Vinny and Zorn and they ran the teami nto the ground yet again.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

You are over simplifying the so called problem. Even when we had draft picks, we picked poorly. What good are draft picks if you have Vinny Cerrato and Snyder weighing on the decision. For example, the 2008 where we had 10 draft picks, not a single player is note worthy. Only Kareem Moore and Fred Davis are just now starting to make some noise. The rest are all gone or on IR.
The problem was not that we did not have enough draft picks. It was poor player evaluation/management. Proof is even the FA we signed sucked. Truth is Gibbs turned over a playoff to team Vinny and Zorn and they ran the teami nto the ground yet again.

I agree that poor player evaluation has been an issue for the Skins for awhile which is why having as many picks as possible was/is even more important. Gibbs did leave those coaches a playoff team but lets face it he didnt exactly leave them the Steelers of Patriots. I think if anything Gibbs saw the writing on the wall and knew he wrung all he could out of those guys and got out because he knew what was coming.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by irish

The problem with Gibbs 2.0 was that he gave away loads of draft picks that should now be contributing members of the Redskins. His record is what it is, its has lasting "legacy" of giving away draft picks thats really coming back to bite the organization now.

Originally Posted by Defensewins

You are over simplifying the so called problem. Even when we had draft picks, we picked poorly. What good are draft picks if you have Vinny Cerrato and Snyder weighing on the decision. For example, the 2008 where we had 10 draft picks, not a single player is note worthy. Only Kareem Moore and Fred Davis are just now starting to make some noise. The rest are all gone or on IR.
The problem was not that we did not have enough draft picks. It was poor player evaluation/management. Proof is even the FA we signed sucked. Truth is Gibbs turned over a playoff to team Vinny and Zorn and they ran the teami nto the ground yet again.

You're both right -- Gibbs set us back by trading away draft picks, but it wouldn't have mattered even if we had them because Gibbs/Snyder/Cerrato weren't good talent evaluators anyhow.

If we could go back and choose, I'd still take my chances with more draft picks, even if the people who were making those decisions sucked at it. Even broken clocks are right twice a day -- the more picks you have, sooner or later one or two is going to hit.

We were screwed either way.