This again

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Oh boy, here we go again...

[Daseal]

A few years ago my first day on the job the first guy I met I was somewhat interested about because he had a massive Redskins logo tatooed on his calf. Turns out he's 1/2 cherokee. He obviously didn't find it offensive.

[skinsguy]

It's quite funny we're talking about Native Americans.....if you are born in this country, aren't you Native to the country? Logic would say yes, therefore, all of us on this board who were born in these United States are Native Americans.

[ST21]

now were all equal...........LOL

[81forHOF]

Originally Posted by SeasonTicketHolder

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

If the Redskins want to keep thier name all they have to do is put a potato on the helmet!

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by 81forHOF

If the Redskins want to keep thier name all they have to do is put a potato on the helmet!

LOL!!! I was thinking the samething this morning! I even pictured what the helmet symbol would look like! ROTFL!

[Daseal]

memphis - There's a reason why you can walk down the street shouting REDSKINS if you want and besides people thinking you're nuts, they won't also think of you as a racist. I'm sorry but the term Redskin doesn't have the hatred intended like the racial slurs you mention (or TAFKAS mentioned.)

I'm going to come out and say it. The Native Americans filing charges have a very slight chance of winning this case, nearly none. They know this, I'm sure it's just someone who wants their face in the paper. Snyder will hire lawyers, smack this out of the air, and we'll continue to be the Redskins. Screw the small minority of Native Americans (9% of Native Americans) who find it offensive. They have no legitimate case -- the name will stay. It's a tradition and they were called the Redskins for how many years before someone got mad?

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by Daseal

memphis - There's a reason why you can walk down the street shouting REDSKINS if you want and besides people thinking you're nuts, they won't also think of you as a racist. I'm sorry but the term Redskin doesn't have the hatred intended like the racial slurs you mention (or TAFKAS mentioned.)

I'm going to come out and say it. The Native Americans filing charges have a very slight chance of winning this case, nearly none. They know this, I'm sure it's just someone who wants their face in the paper. Snyder will hire lawyers, smack this out of the air, and we'll continue to be the Redskins. Screw the small minority of Native Americans (9% of Native Americans) who find it offensive. They have no legitimate case -- the name will stay. It's a tradition and they were called the Redskins for how many years before someone got mad?

I agree that the NA's filing this case have no real shot at winning, and I'm sure they know that as well.

But my question to everyone is why are we so attached to this name? If it was changed, aside from the initial costs (which will quickly be recouped in new merchandise sales) what else would it mean? Instead of looking at it as the death of tradition, why not see it as an opportunity to forge a new tradition, one that doesn't offend anyone? It doesn't change what it means to play for this franchise, it just changes the label that we use to describe the team in general.

[81forHOF]

Unfortunately, the simple fact of the matter is if we as a society are going to be politically correct towards race we have to be towards ALL races.

In my heart I'm against changing the name because I've loved this team and name for as long as I remember. I like to think of this as an opportunity for Native Americans (and I do have some Native American heritage) to show they are bigger than all the other pc fools in the world trying so hard not to offend each other that they have lost sight of what is really important - that we are all basically the same. And I believe that they have done just that by lending so little support to this cause.

I belive that all Americans need thicker skin, regardless of the color.

[ST21]

cpayne....yea that's it you got it....and why we at lets start calling blacks negro's and colored, because if it only offended less that 10% who gives a damn........ R B S

[TheMalcolmConnection]

What it all comes down to is a matter of percentages. By saying that just because it is offensive to someone, we should change it would cause complete turmoil in the country. With that line of thinking where do you draw the line? There are some words that I'm offended by, and I'm a minority of one, so why not change those words? I'm not a proponent of either changing or keeping the Redskins name. I'd love to have it forever, but if it were to change I'd be just fine because as someone else said, I have an attachment to the team and not the name.

I'm just putting it in perspective for those who say that if a small group of people are offended by something it should change. If that is the case, why shouldn't it be the case for one person?

The answer is because it is just not feasible.

I don't have to answer to how many people it should take before a change should take place on a name or something to that effect. I just don't think it's rational to say that if SOMEONE is offended, something should be done.