What Michael Vick won't be

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Angry

Brady Quinn and Matt Leinart are still better than Vince Young. Vince Young's owner just liked him more. Tell you what, bring this subject up in about 3-4 more years.

How can you justify that statement? Brady Quinn has done nothing in the league whatsoever, and Leinart has been a colossal bust. Vince Young is a head case and has been kind of up and down, but he's still got a 30-17 record as a starter, has been to a pro-bowl, won offensive rookie of the year, and has looked like a high-level starter at times.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no Vince Young fan, but I think he's a way better quarterback and athlete than Brady Quinn and Matt Leinart.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by GMScud

How can you justify that statement? Brady Quinn has done nothing in the league whatsoever, and Leinart has been a colossal bust. Vince Young is a head case and has been kind of up and down, but he's still got a 30-17 record as a starter, has been to a pro-bowl, won offensive rookie of the year, and has looked like a high-level starter at times.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no Vince Young fan, but I think he's a way better quarterback and athlete than Brady Quinn and Matt Leinart.

GD it! I had a long and thoughtful response to post and I lost it.

In a nutshell

Leinart was cut because the HC didn't like him, not for lack of ability. Matt Cassel was his backup's backup at one time. He will have to step in sometime and will turn some heads.

Quinn is in the wrong system an has been since college. As soon as someone puts him in the "Walsh" system; he will blossom. He may not have a cannon but he has everything else. It will be a tragedy if no one ever gives it a try.

VY on his best day is an option QB with 2 tools (speed and a cannon). Nobody in the NFL runs the option so do the math. He has none of the other necessary skills. VY has just had the benefit of having an owner that loved him.

Had Leinart and Quinn had as many opportunities as VY we wouldn't be having this conversation. Bookmark this page and give it 3-4 more years. One if not both will have proven their worth beyond that of VY.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Angry

GD it! I had a long and thoughtful response to post and I lost it.

In a nutshell

Leinart was cut because the HC didn't like him, not for lack of ability. Matt Cassel was his backup's backup at one time. He will have to step in sometime and will turn some heads.

Quinn is in the wrong system an has been since college. As soon as someone puts him in the "Walsh" system; he will blossom. He may not have a cannon but he has everything else. It will be a tragedy if no one ever gives it a try.

VY on his best day is an option QB with 2 tools (speed and a cannon). Nobody in the NFL runs the option so do the math. He has none of the other necessary skills. VY has just had the benefit of having an owner that loved him.

Had Leinart and Quinn had as many opportunities as VY we wouldn't be having this conversation. Bookmark this page and give it 3-4 more years. One if not both will have proven their worth beyond that of VY.

I hear what you're saying, but your argument is putting more weight on potential/speculation than actual accomplishments.

I'd be surprised if Leinart or Quinn ever amount to anything but backups in the NFL. Tim Tebow had way more doubters coming out of college than Brady Quinn, and Quinn never even came close to surpassing him on the depth chart this year despite a few more years of NFL experience. And as long as Schaub is healthy, Leinart will never see the field in Houston.