Evaluating the Redskins Trade Bait:

[Monkeydad]

He can handle Haynesworth. Haslett did OK as HC with the Rams. Then, we could scrap Haslett's schemes for Schwartz'.

The only problem left...what to do with Kyle?

Will have to be a package deal. Let the offense call their own plays, then McNabb won't have to study. If Rex is the man...chuck it every play.



Heck, Haslett took the Florida Tuckers to the 2009 championship game. He's a winner.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Buster

He can handle Haynesworth. Haslett did OK as HC with the Rams. Then, we could scrap Haslett's schemes for Schwartz'.

The only problem left...what to do with Kyle?

Will have to be a package deal. Let the offense call their own plays, then McNabb won't have to study. If Rex is the man...chuck it every play.



Heck, Haslett took the Florida Tuckers to the 2009 championship game. He's a winner.

Not as much of a winner as Jim Fassel. Two time UFL Champion! 40 years from Broadway will put on a play about him

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not as much of a winner as Jim Fassel. Two time UFL Champion! 40 years from Broadway will put on a play about him

WOW. You filled in the blank. Fassel will be the new OC under Haslett.


He and Graham Gano = Championship (it has happened before!)



2011 Redskins:

HC - Jim Haslett
OC - Jim Fassel
DC - Jim Schwartz

QB - Grossman
Stats = 4,715 yds, 37 TDs, 21 INTs, 21 fumbles lost, sacked 43 times, 32 rushing yds

NFL Defensive POY - Haynesworth

NFL MVP - Graham Gano (A Skins kicker proved it can happen)

Super Bowl MVP - Kevin Barnes





Don't you love the offseason?

[Dirtbag59]

Bruce Allen is already casting the bait out into the pond. No outright releases for our two most precious trade chips until the 11th hour.

Redskins Insider - Bruce Allen: Albert Haynesworth could return to Skins next season

Redskins Insider - Bruce Allen speaks with Donovan McNabb's agent

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Bruce Allen is already casting the bait out into the pond. No outright releases for our two most precious trade chips until the 11th hour.

Redskins Insider - Bruce Allen: Albert Haynesworth could return to Skins next season

Redskins Insider - Bruce Allen speaks with Donovan McNabb's agent

Bruce Allen is Shanahan's first-class golden retreiver.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Bruce Allen is already casting the bait out into the pond. No outright releases for our two most precious trade chips until the 11th hour.

Redskins Insider - Bruce Allen: Albert Haynesworth could return to Skins next season

Redskins Insider - Bruce Allen speaks with Donovan McNabb's agent

A good PR tactic by Allen. No need to further diminish the potential trade value of the two players on the team most people feel will eventually be traded. Time for everyone to rethink their positions in search of more favorable options.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Buster

WOW. You filled in the blank. Fassel will be the new OC under Haslett.


He and Graham Gano = Championship (it has happened before!)



2011 Redskins:

HC - Jim Haslett
OC - Jim Fassel
DC - Jim Schwartz

QB - Grossman
Stats = 4,715 yds, 37 TDs, 21 INTs, 21 fumbles lost, sacked 43 times, 32 rushing yds

NFL Defensive POY - Haynesworth

NFL MVP - Graham Gano (A Skins kicker proved it can happen)

Super Bowl MVP - Kevin Barnes





Don't you love the offseason?

Whatever you are smoking as you are typing, it has to be illegal...

Where can I get some?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Whatever you are smoking as you are typing, it has to be illegal...

Where can I get some?

No drugs required, just a long-term membership to The Warpath.



We've had some downright insane offseason discussions here. It's become a tradition.


How the WP works:

Preseason = This is our year! Also, campaign to start as many guys off the street and practice squad as possible! (Colt Brennan, Chase Daniel, Ade Jimoh, Marcus Mason, Marko Mitchell)

Gamedays = Sky is falling, act like we're losing by 60 then when the game ends, say "good win".

Postseason = Sadness...

Offseason = Insane trade scenarios!

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Buster

He can handle Haynesworth. Haslett did OK as HC with the Rams. Then, we could scrap Haslett's schemes for Schwartz'.

The only problem left...what to do with Kyle?

Will have to be a package deal. Let the offense call their own plays, then McNabb won't have to study. If Rex is the man...chuck it every play.



Heck, Haslett took the Florida Tuckers to the 2009 championship game. He's a winner.

^^^ This actually could work!

[44ever]

Man I hope we don't trade AH to the Eagles. Sorry, just thinking out loud.

[skinsnut]

Anyone think of this?
The skins essentially "buy" a better draft pick by making McNabb's contract more favorable for the next team...say give him some sort of immediate roster bonus then stretch the contract another year....McNabb would be happy and the new team could afford him per year much better....making him more valuable and increase his trade value from a 5th rounder to potentially ...don't laugh....a 3rd.
It will just cost a few million bucks.

Keep in mind...we could also somehow find a way to have contracts redone so they become unrestricted free agents (such as Haynesworth)....which could yield us as much as a trade or more as a compensory pick (theoretically).

Please someone correct me if I am wrong...just getting creative on how to get better picks....I still wanted Randy Moss midseason....just so releasing him would result in a compensory pick....we need to start thinking like the Pats....10 picks a year, every year...now that is a team building goal.
I can't remember how many times I've seen the Pats have multiple picks in the first 2 rounds the last few years....all this while making the playoffs almost every year.

[skinsnut]

I just looked up the pats
2011
9 total picks
4 in top 2 rounds

2010
12 total picks
4 in top 2 rounds

2009
12 total picks
4 in top 2 rounds

I definately see a pattern...they average 10 picks a year over the last 7 years or so...
But they only had 3 picks in the top 2 rounds total for the 2 years prior to this....I guess paying the price for a couple years can get you into a surplus mode like this.

I really like the idea of making trades for future years as you always get a round higher in return... Heck...why not trade our whole damn draft for a round better next year....then next year we'd have something like
3 #1s (2nd from this year traded forward plus our 1st traded forward for 1st and 2nd)
2 #2s
1 #3
3 #4s (2 5ths from this year traded forward)
1 #5s
3 #6s (2 7ths from this year traded forward, whats a 7th worth anyways? why not?)
1 #7

There is something screwy with that valuation thing....its just no one has tried this yet....we may as well do it and go hard after free agents in this great market this year...and we could then trade some of these to forward years too...heck...anything over 10 picks is just waste anyways...they aint all gunna make the squad.
We could do this in one year...it would be radical...but it just might work!

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I just looked up the pats
2011
9 total picks
4 in top 2 rounds

2010
12 total picks
4 in top 2 rounds

2009
12 total picks
4 in top 2 rounds

I definately see a pattern...they average 10 picks a year over the last 7 years or so...
But they only had 3 picks in the top 2 rounds total for the 2 years prior to this....I guess paying the price for a couple years can get you into a surplus mode like this.

I really like the idea of making trades for future years as you always get a round higher in return... Heck...why not trade our whole damn draft for a round better next year....then next year we'd have something like
3 #1s (2nd from this year traded forward plus our 1st traded forward for 1st and 2nd)
2 #2s
1 #3
3 #4s (2 5ths from this year traded forward)
1 #5s
3 #6s (2 7ths from this year traded forward, whats a 7th worth anyways? why not?)
1 #7

There is something screwy with that valuation thing....its just no one has tried this yet....we may as well do it and go hard after free agents in this great market this year...and we could then trade some of these to forward years too...heck...anything over 10 picks is just waste anyways...they aint all gunna make the squad.
We could do this in one year...it would be radical...but it just might work!

Then trade the number 1s for the number 1 overall and get Luck! CHAMPIONSHIP!

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Then trade the number 1s for the number 1 overall and get Luck! CHAMPIONSHIP!

And...since there will likely be a rookie cap...we'd only have to pay him minimum wage!

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I just looked up the pats
2011
9 total picks
4 in top 2 rounds

2010
12 total picks
4 in top 2 rounds

2009
12 total picks
4 in top 2 rounds

I definately see a pattern...they average 10 picks a year over the last 7 years or so...
But they only had 3 picks in the top 2 rounds total for the 2 years prior to this....I guess paying the price for a couple years can get you into a surplus mode like this.

I really like the idea of making trades for future years as you always get a round higher in return... Heck...why not trade our whole damn draft for a round better next year....then next year we'd have something like
3 #1s (2nd from this year traded forward plus our 1st traded forward for 1st and 2nd)
2 #2s
1 #3
3 #4s (2 5ths from this year traded forward)
1 #5s
3 #6s (2 7ths from this year traded forward, whats a 7th worth anyways? why not?)
1 #7

There is something screwy with that valuation thing....its just no one has tried this yet....we may as well do it and go hard after free agents in this great market this year...and we could then trade some of these to forward years too...heck...anything over 10 picks is just waste anyways...they aint all gunna make the squad.
We could do this in one year...it would be radical...but it just might work!

How dare you try to replicate what the Pats, Eagles, Packers do? Are you insane? That would never work here. The Future Is Now!

Yes, our draft philosophy has got to change. Getting extra picks now and in the future is a wise thing. I'm in awe of how many damn picks, the Eagles get each year and the Pats get each year.

BTW..check out this EXCELLENT, amazing article on how good the Pats draft.

How Belichick Wins With Spare Parts - NYTimes.com

Based on an "average draft position" by team, NE is consistently the lowest draft position in NFL history, several times. One of the other teams...91 Skins w/ Rypien, Sanders, Clark, etc. Check it out, amazing article.