ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

[skinsfaninok]

2011 NFL Mock Draft: Complete 1st Round With Pick-By-Pick Analysis | Bleacher Report

[SBXVII]

Anyone of the QB's who are middle of the road or have dropped down to middle of the road (ie; Locker) then there is nothing but up side. QB's who were middle of the pack ( and I'm only counting like the top 5-7 like everyone else is doind) starting out and quite possibly will be the top QB this year (Newton) have a lot to lose. I remember everyone saying right after the bowl games that Locker was the top man and that teams had a lot to lose possibly drafting him, however Newton was flying under the weather and had a lot of upside. After the Senior Bowl the rolls reversed.

Whoever gets evaluated as the top prospect and possibly #2 and #3 could be drafted prior to the Skins at #10. Last night on the NFL network they were debating whether the Panthers would or should go after a QB.... half the announcers said they should the other said no go defense. Almost everyone is agreeing that the Bills will probably take a QB. Rumor is they are eyeing Newton. I'd presume him to be gone by the time the Skins pick. But the Bills are not the only team that might be looking for a QB either.... what about:

Bills- drastically need a QB.
Cinci- Palmer has requested to be traded.
Arizona- They have two mediocre QB's, could they look for someone better?
49ers- were not happy last yr at QB.
Titans- Will need a replacement for Young.
Skins-

I'm not saying they all will pick QB's, but I'd be supprised if a team doesn't take the top rated QB prior to the Skins pick. Maybe even the top two picks. I can see atleast Newton being gone(by the Bills) and Locker, Gabbert, and or Mallet. I'll agree most likely they all won't be gone. but I just find it funny how people are ..." hey we need to take Newton" or " hey we need to take Locker" when in reality we might not have a chance to get either unless we move up to get them which I'm against.

I'd rather (if at all possible) find a trade partner to trade back to get more picks (somewhere around the 20's) and take either Ponder in the second or Dalton. Pick up another second due to the trade and pick up either DL, OL, or WR if they are not making a run at FA WR's.

I'd also be very suprised if whoever we pick at QB was the starter next yr. McNabb couldn't pick up all of the offense and he's a Pro Bowl QB. More then likely Grossman starts while the Rookie learns the plays. Unless we keep McNabb and hope he learns more of the offense and decides to get his head out of his back side with his 2 min. clock management.

[warriorzpath]

I have to also disagree with dirtbag's assessment of Gabbert's mobility and use of it. Watching that film, I didn't feel that he handles pressure well, but I feel the same about Locker and Newton.

I don't know if they learn that skillset once they get to the NFL, but from the little film that I've watched most times all 3 seem to tuck tail and run when they feel pressure.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I have to also disagree with dirtbag's assessment of Gabbert's mobility and use of it. Watching that film, I didn't feel that he handles pressure well, but I feel the same about Locker and Newton.

I don't know if they learn that skillset once they get to the NFL, but from the little film that I've watched most times all 3 seem to tuck tail and run when they feel pressure.

I think it also depends on the scheme the team is running as to which QB would be best. The Skins really need a pocket passer, but one who has the ability to roll out or scramble if need be. The QB needs to have a strong accurate arm to get the ball down field to the receivers, but also be able to dump the ball off if nothing is available.

Newton and the QB from Virginia Tech strike me as QB's to be used on a team that utilizes the Wild Cat. Both didn't look comfortable in the pocket and didn't look to let plays develope before they took off on foot. Locker kinda had the same issues in regards to just taking off with the ball. Now some here will say thats why we need them cause our OL sucks and they will get the 1st down. I'm telling you the OL will be better this year and they won't need to run as much. I'd rather have a QB who is comfortable in the pocket and has pocket awareness. I've also heard Locker is not as accurate as the others and that most mechanics can be taught but accuracy is one the QB has to have.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I have to also disagree with dirtbag's assessment of Gabbert's mobility and use of it. Watching that film, I didn't feel that he handles pressure well, but I feel the same about Locker and Newton.

I don't know if they learn that skillset once they get to the NFL, but from the little film that I've watched most times all 3 seem to tuck tail and run when they feel pressure.

I've seen Gabbert play quite a bit and dude is great..... When he stands all day BUT once that pocket caves he makes horrible decisions and isn't very accurate deep down field, has a good upside because he has a big arm but so does Mallett. I'm sticking with my guns And saying Locker will be the best QB of this draft.. Dalton is the sleeper QB with Ponder

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I've seen Gabbert play quite a bit and dude is great..... When he stands all day BUT once that pocket caves he makes horrible decisions and isn't very accurate deep down field, has a good upside because he has a big arm but so does Mallett. I'm sticking with my guns And saying Locker will be the best QB of this draft.. Dalton is the sleeper QB with Ponder

I really don't see what everyone else sees in Jake Locker.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I really don't see what everyone else sees in Jake Locker.

Nor do I.

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Nor do I.

I hear ya

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Nor do I.

He's done nothing in the 4 years he had a Washington. Sucked in the Senior Bowl and the bowl game vs Nebraska. He's inaccurate, makes bad decisions and did I mention INACCURATE?? But we should take him why?? Because he can roll out and is fast?? He should just play baseball.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I've seen Gabbert play quite a bit and dude is great..... When he stands all day BUT once that pocket caves he makes horrible decisions and isn't very accurate deep down field, has a good upside because he has a big arm but so does Mallett. I'm sticking with my guns And saying Locker will be the best QB of this draft.. Dalton is the sleeper QB with Ponder

Personally for me it's that commitment to resetting his shoulders and constantly looking downfield that has got me rooting for Gabbert (I believe the third play in that video is the first example). I think in this day and age of exotic blitzes and 250+ pound front 7 players running like safeties that you need a guy with some mobility, unless of course you can find a Peyton Manning type player that always knows where to put the ball before the defense can get to him.

To put it simply I saw a good amount of Aaron Rodgers in Gabbert even though his numbers in that game weren't ideal.

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

I think it hurts him. I def think he will be there at 10. So if Shanny likes him he's ours. I hope we take him.

If I had to guess I would say that Arizona takes him at 5 while Buffalo takes Cam at 3. That leaves us with Mallet, Locker, and Dalton/Ponder. Personally I think you should always expect to reach on a QB when you're picking around 10 and beyond.

[Defensewins]

Jaime Dukes on NFL Network said something I agree about Cam Newton today, Cam needs to go to a coaching staff that is willing to alter their system to Cam's strengths. Otherwise Cam is a project. If his new team does this he might be a decent day one starter. But if they do not it will take a year or two or he might never be a great player in the NFL.
Since the Shanahan's have shown they are about as flexible as Moammar Gadhafi, in changing their system for others, Washington is not the place for Cam Newton.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Jaime Dukes on NFL Network said something I agree about Cam Newton today, Cam needs to go to a coaching staff that is willing to alter their system to Cam's strengths. Otherwise Cam is a project. If his new team does this he might be a decent day one starter. But if they do not it will take a year or two or he might never be a great player in the NFL.
Since the Shanahan's have shown they are about as flexible as Moammar Gadhafi, in changing their system for others, Washington is not the place for Cam Newton.

that's a good point, but at the same time could be applicable to any no. of qb's every year. No matter how flexible the coaching staff, Cam will still have to deal w/a steep learning curve. Just as much or more so as coaching to the qb's strengths, being on a good team is what allows rookie qb's to play well, like Big Ben, Flacco & Ryan. It's unlikely he'll be on a good team though.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Jaime Dukes on NFL Network said something I agree about Cam Newton today, Cam needs to go to a coaching staff that is willing to alter their system to Cam's strengths. Otherwise Cam is a project. If his new team does this he might be a decent day one starter. But if they do not it will take a year or two or he might never be a great player in the NFL.
Since the Shanahan's have shown they are about as flexible as Moammar Gadhafi, in changing their system for others, Washington is not the place for Cam Newton.

Keep him away from Kyle.

[skinsfaninok]

Dallas has been high on cam for a while now, romo isn't getting any younger so it kind of makes sense to draft him and sit for a year or 2. I've also heard they really like Ryan Mallett

[Ruhskins]

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