ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Nolan Nawrocki isn't some schlub. He's a former Division 1 football player whose opinion has been extremely well received by many, if not all, NFL front offices. And he wasn't the one who put his report of Cam Newton online everywhere. And it's not his fault one of the first times the common fan is getting access to a full report on a player is this time.

Nolan Nawrocki responds to Warren Moon’s claim of racial bias | ProFootballTalk

Here is the full Nolan Nawrocki Newton Scouting report:

ProFootballWeekly.com - Cam Newton scouting report

[53Fan]

Throwing out the race card has become the most surefire way to distract attention from the original issue. It has become a tool and that is unfortunate.

[Son Of Man]

Warren Moon is a Hall of Famer. I do not remember him calling the guy a racist or accusing racism. What he said is that he interpreted the comments as having racial undertones. Personally, I would not have made that assumption. However, I did not endure what Moon endured early in his career so I have to beleive that he sees the world through a slightly different prism. Either way, Nawrocki's "assesment" of Cam Newton does seem to be a little like a personal attack (ex: fake smile) regardless of his motivation (which is proably just his schtick to sell his opinions).

BTW- Calling a man as accomplished as Warren Moon a "dumbass" only makes you look like one. Why are you so amped? Calm down little guy.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

BTW- Calling a man as accomplished as Warren Moon a "dumbass" only makes you look like one. Why are you so amped? Calm down little guy.

Hey, George Bush is ten times more accomplished than Warren Moon will ever be, and yet he is one of the biggest dumbasses in the history of the US. Being accomplished doesn't exclude you from being a dumbass when it comes to your views or something you say.

Why am I amped? Because I'm sick and tired of hearing the "race card" being played at every turn when something doesn't go somebody's way. It gets very old, very fast. What this does is set back the people that actually experience real racism.

There is no need for that "little guy" comment. If you can't talk using logic and respect, then stay out of the conversation.

I do not remember him calling the guy a racist or accusing racism. What he said is that he interpreted the comments as having racial undertones

Just to refresh your memory.

Warren Moon sees racial bias regarding Cam Newton | ProFootballTalk

“A lot of the criticism he’s receiving is unfortunate and racially based

Of course there is racism in every walk of society. We’ve made a lot of progress in this country. But racism is still there. I just thought in the sports arena we were beyond it. I think the way Cam is being treated shows we’re not. . . .

Sounds to me he's pretty much calling the guy a racist. If he's telling you the criticism is "racially based", then he's calling you a racist without actually using the word a racist.

[SmootSmack]

I really don't think people are giving Nolan Nawrocki the proper respect. He's a well respected draft analyst and he's not in the business of writing things just to sell. This isn't some moron posting some lame article on Bleacher Report.

As for Moon, loved him as a QB. Absolutely loved him. (As a person, my experience with him has been limited). But he did say that some of the questions about Cam are blatant racism.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I really don't think people are giving Nolan Nawrocki the proper respect. He's a well respected draft analyst and he's not in the business of writing things just to sell. This isn't some moron posting some lame article on Bleacher Report.

As for Moon, loved him as a QB. Absolutely loved him. (As a person, my experience with him has been limited). But he did say that some of the questions about Cam are blatant racism.

[quote] 09:47 AM ET 04.03 | Warren Moon isn't the only person who thinks race may be a factor in the way the NFL world is perceiving Cam Newton. A high ranking NFL executive, who is white, came to the same conclusion before Moon made his comments. "If Newton were white, he'd be the first pick in the draft," he said. [unquote]

SS...any idea who that high ranking NFL executive might be?

[SmootSmack]

[quote=Longtimefan;792374]

09:47 AM ET 04.03 | Warren Moon isn't the only person who thinks race may be a factor in the way the NFL world is perceiving Cam Newton. A high ranking NFL executive, who is white, came to the same conclusion before Moon made his comments. "If Newton were white, he'd be the first pick in the draft," he said. [unquote]

SS...any idea who that high ranking NFL executive might be?

no idea

[Longtimefan]

[quote=SmootSmack;792375]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

no idea

I was hoping that whoever it is, they would stake claim to their assertion.

[30gut]

[quote=Longtimefan;792374]

09:47 AM ET 04.03 | Warren Moon isn't the only person who thinks race may be a factor in the way the NFL world is perceiving Cam Newton. A high ranking NFL executive, who is white, came to the same conclusion before Moon made his comments. "If Newton were white, he'd be the first pick in the draft," he said. [unquote]

SS...any idea who that high ranking NFL executive might be?

Let me guess: some race card dropping dumbass?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Let me guess: some race card dropping dumbass?

.... or some fictional quote somebody made up?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

.... or some fictional quote somebody made up?

Originally Posted by Dan Pompei

Things I Didn’t Used To Know

*Warren Moon isn’t the only person who thinks race may be a factor in the way the NFL world is perceiving Cam Newton. A high ranking NFL executive, who is white, came to the same conclusion before Moon made his comments. “If Newton were white, he’d be the first pick in the draft,” he said.

NFP Sunday Blitz | National Football Post

Dan Pompei's anonymous GM is no more or less fictional then Narwocki's.

You can't have it both ways.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

.... or some fictional quote somebody made up?

You really hate Cam Newton. All your posts on this thread are so angry and bitter. You need to get out and enjoy the spring weather. Cam Newton will not be a Redskin.

[Son Of Man]

George Bush was the President of the United States of America. He may not have been the smartest president in history, but I would have to assume it takes a certain degree of intelligence to be leader of the free world for eight years.

I have to admit that I do not know alot about Nolan Nawrocki's work. It just seems unprofessional and uncalled for to assail someone's character the way he went after Newton's. Maybe that is just his style. However, it is a style that I do not prefer from my journalists of choice.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

George Bush was the President of the United States of America. He may not have been the smartest president in history, but I would have to assume it takes a certain degree of intelligence to be leader of the free world for eight years.

I have to admit that I do not know alot about Nolan Nawrocki's work. It just seems unprofessional and uncalled for to assail someone's character the way he went after Newton's. Maybe that is just his style. However, it is a style that I do not prefer from my journalists of choice.

Actually Bush is proof that all it takes is good advisers and truckloads of money...and Monica Lewinsky.

[Son Of Man]

I will also go on record and say that I hope Newton has the work ethic to set the league on fire. I think that QB's with the skill set of he, Vick and Tebow and the style they play add great spice to the league.