As Is 2 Round Dream Draft

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

More than likely Denver takes Peterson at number 2 then before Dallas, who is going to take a CB?

I really doubt Denver goes with a CB that high. Think they would like to trade down (if, say, SF wanted to get in position for a QB), and then take best available CB, but I don't see them going that route at no. 2.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

More than likely Denver takes Peterson at number 2 then before Dallas, who is going to take a CB?

Buffalo and Arizona are possibilities. I doubt Prince gets past Dallas. But if he does-and we don't bring back Rogers-then yeah I'd certainly consider him

[GTripp0012]

My 2 round dream draft would probably include:

1) DE Marcell Dareus, Alabama
2) OLB Justin Houston, Georgia

Which will change tomorrow.

[IrMitchell]

My dream second round pick would be Corey Liuget or Greg Jones.

[Terpfan76]

I have my doubts that Von Miller will be available at the 10 spot and I don't think Quinn will be either, but if I had to chose one of those two it would be Quinn.

My draft would be:

1. Quinn or Miller whichever one is available, preferably Quinn.
2. Locker if he were to fall that far. Otherwise, I'd go with the best available player leaning towards interior linemen, offensive or defensive.

I mentioned previously that I was interested in seeing what scouts think of Mitch Mustain. He got very little playing time, but he was perhaps the most sought after recruit during his HS career. I'd be willing to bet that he'd be available in the 7th round or even as a free agent. This would allow us to fill other spots considering that Rexy will be starting next year anyways, at least most likely.

[GTripp0012]

I like Christian Ponder a lot, but I think if I had my choice of him or Pat Devlin in round two, I'd take Devlin. I don't think there is a more accurate passer in this class than Devlin.

He's going to need work in under center formations because Delaware runs their pro style sets out of a pistol-like shotgun. But Flacco ran the same formations in the same offense, and he started on day one for the Ravens (thanks, tonsillitis!).

Devlin is more pro ready than Flacco was, is more accurate, and makes quicker decisions. On the down side, he's really not a great passer when flushed from the pocket by pressure. I was really impressed, instead, by his ability to stand in and deliver accurately with no space to step.

I think I'd value both Devlin and Ponder as late first rounders. Ponder throws the better deep ball of the two...at least evidenced in 2009, when his elbow wasn't an issue.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I like Christian Ponder a lot, but I think if I had my choice of him or Pat Devlin in round two, I'd take Devlin. I don't think there is a more accurate passer in this class than Devlin.

He's going to need work in under center formations because Delaware runs their pro style sets out of a pistol-like shotgun. But Flacco ran the same formations in the same offense, and he started on day one for the Ravens (thanks, tonsillitis!).

Devlin is more pro ready than Flacco was, is more accurate, and makes quicker decisions. On the down side, he's really not a great passer when flushed from the pocket by pressure. I was really impressed, instead, by his ability to stand in and deliver accurately with no space to step.

I think I'd value both Devlin and Ponder as late first rounders. Ponder throws the better deep ball of the two...at least evidenced in 2009, when his elbow wasn't an issue.

Devlin's been brutal this week at Shrine practice. Or so I have heard

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Devlin's been brutal this week at Shrine practice. Or so I have heard

DT Austin, QB Devlin impress at Shrine practice - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Which is not to say I would value Reuter's info any more than yours. I wouldn't.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

DT Austin, QB Devlin impress at Shrine practice - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Which is not to say I would value Reuter's info any more than yours. I wouldn't.

Without being there myself I can't say for sure

2011 East-West Shrine Game: Pat Devlin Getting Mixed Reviews - Buffalo Rumblings

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

DT Austin, QB Devlin impress at Shrine practice - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Which is not to say I would value Reuter's info any more than yours. I wouldn't.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Without being there myself I can't say for sure
2011 East-West Shrine Game: Pat Devlin Getting Mixed Reviews - Buffalo Rumblings

This is why we love and hate this time of year. For every 'scout' who loves a player, there's another one who hates them.

[GTripp0012]

Someone should give me a reason to really, really love Andy Dalton. I never watched the TCU offense with great confidence in the past couple of years, despite all the winning and all the weapons. Dalton has played horrible over certain stretches (first 33 minutes of the SMU game this year, for example). At the end of the day though, I can't really argue against Andy Dalton's accomplishments, and the scouts seem to think he's a real legit mid round pick.

I just wish there was a single thing about Dalton that suggested he was a pro prospect. When you are a mountain west QB who does everything well, and nothing great, that means you become an NFL third stringer. What am I missing on Dalton that would justify a day two pick on him?

[Terpfan76]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Someone should give me a reason to really, really love Andy Dalton. I never watched the TCU offense with great confidence in the past couple of years, despite all the winning and all the weapons. Dalton has played horrible over certain stretches (first 33 minutes of the SMU game this year, for example). At the end of the day though, I can't really argue against Andy Dalton's accomplishments, and the scouts seem to think he's a real legit mid round pick.

I just wish there was a single thing about Dalton that suggested he was a pro prospect. When you are a mountain west QB who does everything well, and nothing great, that means you become an NFL third stringer. What am I missing on Dalton that would justify a day two pick on him?

I've been thinking the same. I hear/see a lot of people singing Dalton's praises and hoping to get him, but I'm just not seeing why. I'm not for a moment suggesting he won't become a star, I just am not seeing what it is that has everyone so high on him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Terpfan76

I've been thinking the same. I hear/see a lot of people singing Dalton's praises and hoping to get him, but I'm just not seeing why. I'm not for a moment suggesting he won't become a star, I just am not seeing what it is that has everyone so high on him.

Thing is, Dalton has really, really spectacular numbers, I'm just struggling to find a NFL quality skill. He couldn't have gotten those numbers by accident/being in the right place at the right time, but he also would never have been considered a NFL type guy before this year.

I suppose you just don't know. He'll just have to be someone I keep an eye on at the combine. Could be a steal, could be a wasted pick.

[Terpfan76]

Ponder reminds me a lot of a more mobile Brad Johnson. Not that Johnson was a bad player, hell there were a couple years when he was on of the more under-appreciated qbs in football. That being said he was not a franchise qb and that's what we need. I really don't think there is a true franchise qb in this draft, but I feel that Locker fits the mold more than any of the other top qbs. Devlin interests me but not having a 3rd or 4th round pick makes me not so interested in going that way. We have too many positions that we could impact with this draft to risk chasing someone like Devlin in the second round. If we are able to acquire a 3rd and 4th via trading away McNabb and the Tub-O-Lard and possibly trading down in the first, I'd feel more comfortable "reaching" for a guy like Devlin or even Ponder. I guess I'm not as keen on Ponder as others.

[IrMitchell]

Do any of you guys honestly think we'll go Quarterback in round 2? If one will be taken, it will be one that Shanahan is confident with and go #10 overall.