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Old 01-20-2011, 02:38 PM   #1
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No, the retarded thing is spending time on something that CANNOT help the majority of people, rather than spending time on something that CAN. If you can't get a bill past Obama's desk, then why try? Instead focus your energy on other ways to help your constituents. If you take your eye off that all-important ball, you won't be credited with any successes come 2012.

Further, if repealing this is really important, you work the positives accomplish what you can and then, in 2012, turn to the public and say:

"Look at our successes, we know how to work together. Obama has said he would veto any repeal of his healthcare law so we didn't waste our time with that. HOWEVER, this is it folks, we get one shot at repealing this bill before it gets to entrenched into the business cycle. In order to do so, we need a Republican president to sign the bill; without a Republican Pres., Obamacare will not go away. Vote Republican and let us finish what we started in 2010."

Turn 2012 into a referendum on Obamacare. Assert that a Rep. pres. and Congress can find a way to repeal it at little or no cost (and then come up with a legitimate way to do so). It's a high risk/high reward kind of strategy that requires careful thought out planning and legislative victories now. Which is exactly why the Republicans can't pull it off.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:19 PM   #2
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Further, if repealing this is really important, you work the positives accomplish what you can and then, in 2012, turn to the public and say:

"Look at our successes, we know how to work together. Obama has said he would veto any repeal of his healthcare law so we didn't waste our time with that. HOWEVER, this is it folks, we get one shot at repealing this bill before it gets to entrenched into the business cycle. In order to do so, we need a Republican president to sign the bill; without a Republican Pres., Obamacare will not go away. Vote Republican and let us finish what we started in 2010."

Turn 2012 into a referendum on Obamacare. Assert that a Rep. pres. and Congress can find a way to repeal it at little or no cost (and then come up with a legitimate way to do so). It's a high risk/high reward kind of strategy that requires careful thought out planning and legislative victories now. Which is exactly why the Republicans can't pull it off.
Ahh the fairy dream of positive accomplishments.

The Democratic Senate and Presidency aren't going to give the Republican House any but the smallest of positives, and they will parlay them into big bad negatives. The Democrats have this type political strategy down to a science. Further, Pres Obama will play any "concession" made to the Republicans into the "evil corporations" mode, or some form of fear mongering.

The Republicans had to make this vote now, in order to avoid their constituency attacking them as not doing what they promised. Now the House Republicans can (but probably won't) take any small victories and say we tried to do more, but the Democrats blocked us. I doubt the Republicans have the ability to avoid looking like selfish, corporate suits, (cuz most are), but this initial vote simply set the stage for the 2012 referendum on Obamacare that you talked about.
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