Is locker going in the first or second?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

He & Christion Ponder seem to have some things in common, but I think you're asking who's going to slide? I'm thinking Mallet.

Maybe a better question/scenario for us is who's this year's Aaron Rodgers? and let's hope we trade back & get him.

This year's Aaron Rodgers in what way?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

And who will be this year's Jimmy Clausen?

Ryan Mallet. Junior QB coached by Bobby Petrino. These days Petrino is the early 2000's equivalent of Jeff Tedford in that Petrino is considered a great QB coach at the college level yet his players have difficulties transitioning to the pro's in spite of running a pro system at the colleigate level.

Mallet won't interview well and from what I hear he'll be lucky to have an average Wonderlic score. He does have the leadership qualities teams look for along with the arm but he won't wow you in the interview room with charisma like a Tebow or Ryan nor the football IQ of a Manning or Brees.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Ryan Mallet. Junior QB coached by Bobby Petrino. These days Petrino is the early 2000's equivalent of Jeff Tedford in that Petrino is considered a great QB coach at the college level yet his players have difficulties transitioning to the pro's in spite of running a pro system at the colleigate level.

Mallet won't interview well and from what I hear he'll be lucky to have an average Wonderlic score. He does have the leadership qualities teams look for along with the arm but he won't wow you in the interview room with charisma like a Tebow or Ryan nor the football IQ of a Manning or Brees.

I'd probably say Mallet too...but Tedford is looking a bit redeemed these days with Aaron Rodgers

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd probably say Mallet too...but Tedford is looking a bit redeemed these days with Aaron Rodgers

Yeah, pretty much. Patrino is still looking for his own version of Aaron Rodgers at the pro level. Unfortunately the closest he's gotten is Jake Plummer. Other Petrino coached QB's include Dave Ragone, Stefan LeFors, Chris Redman, and Brian Brohm many of whom serve as poster childs for why teams can't rely on using mid round draft picks to find franchise QB.

Lol in fact I'm convinced, if Chris Redman was coming out in this draft he would have a following that would make both Andy Dalton and Kellen Moore jealous, well maybe not Kellen Moore but certainly Andy Dalton. I mean if I told people that there would be a QB available as late as the third round with four years of starting experience in a pro-like system with 29 TD passes each of the last two years paired with 15 and 13 INT's as well as a 71% and 65% completion percentage (not to mention 4,042 and 3,647 yards during his last two seasons), well safe to say the man crushes would be flying left and right.

Which actually begs the question.....why the hell was Chris Redman a third round pick in the first place? I mean I know he went on to be a bust but as a prospect he certainly seems like someone that should have fetched a first round grade.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Yeah, pretty much. Patrino is still looking for his own version of Aaron Rodgers at the pro level. Unfortunately the closest he's gotten is Jake Plummer. Other Petrino coached QB's include Dave Ragone, Stefan LeFors, Chris Redman, and Brian Brohm many of whom serve as poster childs for why teams can't rely on using mid round draft picks to find franchise QB.

Lol in fact I'm convinced, if Chris Redman was coming out in this draft he would have a following that would make both Andy Dalton and Kellen Moore jealous, well maybe not Kellen Moore but certainly Andy Dalton. I mean if I told people that there would be a QB available as late as the third round with four years of starting experience in a pro-like system with 29 TD passes each of the last two years paired with 15 and 13 INT's as well as a 71% and 65% completion percentage (not to mention 4,042 and 3,647 yards during his last two seasons), well safe to say the man crushes would be flying left and right.

Which actually begs the question.....why the hell was Chris Redman a third round pick in the first place? I mean I know he went on to be a bust but as a prospect he certainly seems like someone that should have fetched a first round grade.

I don't have an answer for you, but I would assume it's the same reason that a guy with the numbers of Matt Schaub went in the third round.

Redman's become one of the best backups in football in Atlanta. That's not nothing, I suppose.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Yeah, pretty much. Patrino is still looking for his own version of Aaron Rodgers at the pro level. Unfortunately the closest he's gotten is Jake Plummer. Other Petrino coached QB's include Dave Ragone, Stefan LeFors, Chris Redman, and Brian Brohm many of whom serve as poster childs for why teams can't rely on using mid round draft picks to find franchise QB.

Lol in fact I'm convinced, if Chris Redman was coming out in this draft he would have a following that would make both Andy Dalton and Kellen Moore jealous, well maybe not Kellen Moore but certainly Andy Dalton. I mean if I told people that there would be a QB available as late as the third round with four years of starting experience in a pro-like system with 29 TD passes each of the last two years paired with 15 and 13 INT's as well as a 71% and 65% completion percentage (not to mention 4,042 and 3,647 yards during his last two seasons), well safe to say the man crushes would be flying left and right.

Which actually begs the question.....why the hell was Chris Redman a third round pick in the first place? I mean I know he went on to be a bust but as a prospect he certainly seems like someone that should have fetched a first round grade.

This is the perfect example of why you don't use stats as the main reason in personnel decisions.

Good numbers help get attention to good players, but nfl teams should use stats to help decide AFTER evaluating the film on players.

[skinsguy]

How many years of college does Montana's kid have left? ;-)

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

How many years of college does Montana's kid have left? ;-)

2013 NFL Draft at the earliest. I'll be interested in seeing if he can make it to the NFL. Guy was actually a walk on at Notre Dame.

[skinster]

Ok, so after worrying about if we were not going to maximize our picks by possibly selecting him with the 10, I am now worried that he will not make it to the 10. Some guys made some very good points.

[SBXVII]

I think it's a lock that Locker gets locked up prior to #10. Locking up Locker would be a high priority for almost half the teams ahead of us since half of them need a QB who will lock down the QB positions for years to come.

JK, but serioulsy, there are about half the teams ahead of us who need a QB and honestly depending on what Dallas does with Romo I could see them giving the reigns to their second string and drafting another QB to develope since supposedly Dallas is not enamoured with Romo.

here's the list:

Carolina (2-14)
Denver (4-12)
Buffalo (4-12)
Cincinnati (4-12)
Arizona (5-11)
Cleveland (5-11)
San Francisco (6-10)
Tennessee (6-10)
Dallas (6-10)
Washington (6-10)

Depending on what Carolina and Denver thought of their QB situation and how well they performed they might be included. I'd think Buffalo, Arizona, San Fran, and Tennessee are all in for a franchise QB.

Carolina-?
Denver-?
Buffalo
Arizona
Cleveland-?
San Fran
Tennesse
Dallas-?
Washington

My point is if Locker is the top #1 QB expected to go, then don't expect him to be there at #10. Especially since there are so many teams needing a QB. So if we now start looking at the next available QB's coming out and decide which one would you take? and are they worthy of being picked at #10?

Personally I'd try to drop down in the draft for more picks otherwise I'd pick up another position and see whats available in round 2 or later QB wise.

[celts32]

Locker will be at the Senior Bowl next week. How he does in those practices will determine if he starts to move up the board or not. If he does well next week in front of all the leagues decision makers then his so-so season at Washington will be minimized and he will be on his way to being a pretty high 1st round pick. This is really his last chance in pads in a real football environment. After this he will be in shorts at the combine or in scripted workouts. Huge week for him. I want Locker so i am not sure what to root for...if he does to good then he may go before #10 but if he bombs then maybe the skins won't even want him anymore.

[Monkeydad]

Anyone who picks him in the first round is making a mistake.

[Terpfan76]

Originally Posted by Buster

Anyone who picks him in the first round is making a mistake.

You could easily say that about any of the qbs in this years draft. Of all of them however, I feel that Locker would be the better choice if forced to take one if the first round. I'd be much much happier if we were able to pull the trigger on him in the second round.

[3Card]

Mike mayock said today that Locker is a top 15 guy in this draft.

[cdskins26]

Late first is the earliest i would consider taking him. He seems like a decent player but too big a risk.