2011 Senior Bowl Week

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

love the thought of him too, but yeah, does he last til #10?

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This guy has no chance of lasting to number 10

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

This guy has no chance of lasting to number 10

Yeah but Orakpo lasting til #13 didn't seem likely either

[freddyg12]

If nothing else, Locker's stock dropping is good for us. He may fall to the 2nd like Clausen last year. If Shanny really likes him but thinks he can get him in the 2nd, at least the risk/bust factor is much reduced, though we need virtually ALL of our picks to be starters w/in a couple years.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

If nothing else, Locker's stock dropping is good for us. He may fall to the 2nd like Clausen last year. If Shanny really likes him but thinks he can get him in the 2nd, at least the risk/bust factor is much reduced, though we need virtually ALL of our picks to be starters w/in a couple years.

I wouldn't be surprised if we, along with some other teams, use this year to select a QB and then again next year. A lot of scouts/execs feel this could be a year to get a guy who can be your solid long-term #2/potential starter and next year there are more franchise QB options. With the 18 game season potentially on the horizon, teams are feeling more and more pressure to have 2 QBs.

Not having free agency before the draft complicates things because guys like OG Davin Joseph, LB LaMarr Woodley and RB (who I have not yet been able to identify) I know are high on our radar, but if we can't get them before the draft it changes our thinking.

I'm not convinced that we're seriously interested in Newton or Locker or any other QB at 10. Not right now at least. But we'll show it because likely one of them will be there when we pick and we'd like to move down or out of the 1st and pick up extra 2nd,3rd, and/or 4th round picks where guys like Stanzi or Ponder are on our radar.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I wouldn't be surprised if we, along with some other teams, use this year to select a QB and then again next year. A lot of scouts/execs feel this could be a year to get a guy who can be your solid long-term #2/potential starter and next year there are more franchise QB options. With the 18 game season potentially on the horizon, teams are feeling more and more pressure to have 2 QBs.

Not having free agency before the draft complicates things because guys like OG Davin Joseph, LB LaMarr Woodley and RB (who I have not yet been able to identify) I know are high on our radar, but if we can't get them before the draft it changes our thinking.

I'm not convinced that we're seriously interested in Newton or Locker or any other QB at 10. Not right now at least. But we'll show it because likely one of them will be there when we pick and we'd like to move down or out of the 1st and pick up extra 2nd,3rd, and/or 4th round picks where guys like Stanzi or Ponder are on our radar.

Interesting point (sorry to channel Sportscurmedgeon!). Of course that qb in the 2nd, 3rd,etc. could be the guy. So the FAs you mention above ARE rumored to be on our radar? Sounds about right, I was just hoping that no fa rb's were considered. If one is signed, likely signals CP's departure.

And Stanzi & Ponder definitely on our radar?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Interesting point (sorry to channel Sportscurmedgeon!). Of course that qb in the 2nd, 3rd,etc. could be the guy. So the FAs you mention above ARE rumored to be on our radar? Sounds about right, I was just hoping that no fa rb's were considered. If one is signed, likely signals CP's departure.

And Stanzi & Ponder definitely on our radar?

Joseph and Woodley are definitely very high on our radar. Problem is well, first of all this whole CBA mess; and secondly the Bucs and Steelers won't let them go easily. I don't know who this RB is, just heard that they had their eye on one. Then again, I heard they were going to make a big push for Sproles last year and that didn't happen (but I was right about Peppers!).

I don't know how serious we are about Stanzi, but I know we've heavily scouted and spoken to Ponder this season...but then again, part of that could have been "covert' scouting on his teammate Rodney Hudson. Similar to a couple of years ago when we there was all this buzz about showing interest in Russell when really it was his teammate Landry (Russell incidentally has been working out with an undisclosed AFC East team and expects to sign a contract with them soon. He expects to, not sure if the team does. My guess is it's the Dolphins as the Bills seem to want to go the draft route-Andy Dalton round 2?)

Also, Skins spoke with your boy Carmichael and some OT. Can't recall who. Guy from Pittsburgh I think.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Joseph and Woodley are definitely very high on our radar. Problem is well, first of all this whole CBA mess; and secondly the Bucs and Steelers won't let them go easily. I don't know who this RB is, just heard that they had their eye on one. Then again, I heard they were going to make a big push for Sproles last year and that didn't happen (but I was right about Peppers!).

I don't know how serious we are about Stanzi, but I know we've heavily scouted and spoken to Ponder this season...but then again, part of that could have been "covert' scouting on his teammate Rodney Hudson. Similar to a couple of years ago when we there was all this buzz about showing interest in Russell when really it was his teammate Landry (Russell incidentally has been working out with an undisclosed AFC East team and expects to sign a contract with them soon. He expects to, not sure if the team does. My guess is it's the Dolphins as the Bills seem to want to go the draft route-Andy Dalton round 2?)

Also, Skins spoke with your boy Carmichael and some OT. Can't recall who. Guy from Pittsburgh I think.

Nice! thanks SS. Wouldn't be surprised if Russell were talking to the Jets. Seems like Rex Ryan would be open to using him in the wildcat the way they have w/Smith. Then again, the wildcat is so 2008!

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Joseph and Woodley are definitely very high on our radar. Problem is well, first of all this whole CBA mess; and secondly the Bucs and Steelers won't let them go easily. I don't know who this RB is, just heard that they had their eye on one. Then again, I heard they were going to make a big push for Sproles last year and that didn't happen (but I was right about Peppers!).

I don't know how serious we are about Stanzi, but I know we've heavily scouted and spoken to Ponder this season...but then again, part of that could have been "covert' scouting on his teammate Rodney Hudson. Similar to a couple of years ago when we there was all this buzz about showing interest in Russell when really it was his teammate Landry (Russell incidentally has been working out with an undisclosed AFC East team and expects to sign a contract with them soon. He expects to, not sure if the team does. My guess is it's the Dolphins as the Bills seem to want to go the draft route-Andy Dalton round 2?)

Also, Skins spoke with your boy Carmichael and some OT. Can't recall who. Guy from Pittsburgh I think.

So that means we're gonna draft Tyrod Taylor!

[wilsowilso]

Well we can't take a QB who's biggest flaw is accuracy at #10.

I mean come on. Accuracy?

I say trade back and draft another Tackle.

[GridIron26]

What the heck happened to Maybin? We haven't heard anything about him since he was drafted.

[SOUL-SKINS]

Just think if we lost that meaningless Jags game we would be picking 6th....... Miller would probably be avail at that pick :/............ but i never root to lose so whatever.

[MTK]

Rak is lazy?

News to me.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Rak is lazy?

News to me.

Have you truly not realized this? It was his biggest knock coming out of college also.

He's a great player, in fact our best player.. but lazy.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Have you truly not realized this? It was his biggest knock coming out of college also.

He's a great player, in fact our best player.. but lazy.

First I've ever heard of someone calling him lazy.

One of his best attributes to me is his motor. If he takes plays off, I've never seen it and I'm usually watching him on D.

I can't speak for what he did in college, but if he's lazy in the pros, I'm just not seeing it, nor have I heard anyone but you mention it.

Got any examples to back this claim up? Clips, highlights, etc?

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

First I've ever heard of someone calling him lazy.

One of his best attributes to me is his motor. If he takes plays off, I've never seen it and I'm usually watching him on D.

I can't speak for what he did in college, but if he's lazy in the pros, I'm just not seeing it, nor have I heard anyone but you mention it.

Got any examples to back this claim up? Clips, highlights, etc?

His best attribute is his motor and burst, there's no doubt.. but what I see from him is that he's unable to be consistent throughout a full defensive series.

I can't really show you anything considering I would only be able to find highlights, but take note next time..