2011 Senior Bowl Week

[ArtMonkDrillz]

To be honest, today was the first time that I had a chance to see much of Locker and I can't say I'm very impressed. In fact, I like Stanzi about 1000x more! I didn't see much of him, but I loved what I saw. Not sure what the "experts" are saying about him but if we could get him with our 2nd (do we have a 2nd? I lost track) I'd be pretty happy, especially if it meant we got some LB or OL help in the first.

Also, as a biased Terps fan who happens to sport a #23 jersey to all the home games, I would love it if the Skins could end up with Da'rel Scott in one of the later rounds but I doubt that will happen. I'm glad to see he had a nice day today. Best of luck to him!

[SirClintonPortis]

What I found interesting was when Mayock broke down Locker's footwork. His base is initially very narrow and then becomes really wide. They then said that that was like an infielder's throwing motion. He actually was a pitcher and outfielder

Perhaps some of Locker's issues are fixable.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

What I found interesting was when Mayock broke down Locker's footwork. His base is initially very narrow and then becomes really wide. They then said that that was like an infielder's throwing motion. He actually was a pitcher and outfielder

Perhaps some of Locker's issues are fixable.

I took note of that too... Gotta think back to Tebow last year. He looked worse than Locker, had inferior mechanics yet he did alright...

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I took note of that too... Gotta think back to Tebow last year. He looked worse than Locker, had inferior mechanics yet he did alright...

Yeah but Tebow was also the golden boy with unmatched intangibles, and something no one else can ever have.... The jump pass.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

What I found interesting was when Mayock broke down Locker's footwork. His base is initially very narrow and then becomes really wide. They then said that that was like an infielder's throwing motion. He actually was a pitcher and outfielder

Perhaps some of Locker's issues are fixable.

SirClintonPortis, how are you this fine day?

Just a point I would like to make here. It's very difficult to change habits that have been formed for many years. That being said, I don't think the correct way of planting ones lower body will benefit some athletes that play a specialized position like QB.

This might be the reason Kyle Shanahan does not emphasis making corrections to what's natural to QBs, in other words, let them play with what comes natural to them. Of course, if it is a glaring problem then show the proper way to do the same task correctly.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by juskins

SirClintonPortis, how are you this fine day?

Just a point I would like to make here. It's very difficult to change habits that have been formed for many years. That being said, I don't think the correct way of planting ones lower body will benefit some athletes that play a specialized position like QB.

This might be the reason Kyle Shanahan does not emphasis making corrections to what's natural to QBs, in other words, let them play with what comes natural to them. Of course, if it is a glaring problem then show the proper way to do the same task correctly.

Yes, muscle memory is not easy to "re-encode" yet if applied with much effort, the "new code" will "overwrite" the "old code". I think footwork is more "coachable" than many other aspects that goes into a QB's throw since.

I don't think planting is irrelevant to QB'ing since the QB uses the whole body to throw. A slight difference body part positioning is very likely to affect how the ball is going to come out.

I don't have a horse in this race as I don't know any of the QBs well enough, but I did think what Mayock pointed was interesting.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Yes, muscle memory is not easy to "re-encode" yet if applied with much effort, the "new code" will "overwrite" the "old code". I think footwork is more "coachable" than many other aspects that goes into a QB's throw since.

I don't think planting is irrelevant to QB'ing since the QB uses the whole body to throw. A slight difference body part positioning is very likely to affect how the ball is going to come out.

I don't have a horse in this race as I don't know any of the QBs well enough, but I did think what Mayock pointed was interesting.

Your first paragraph sounds like a quote from Hal the computer in the movie, "2001, A Space Odyssey".

So, would you agree that in essence Mayock was saying that patience is a virtue when thinking of drafting Locker. I hear project in what you said Mayock mentioned when talking about Locker's delivery.

The reason I mentioned the word "project" is because throwing a pass with ill-advise lower half technique is a time learning concept than say, a shoulder throwing technique. Meaning that the upper body motion is easier to correct with practice. Which in itself is less cumbersome.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by juskins

Your first paragraph sounds like a quote from Hal the computer in the movie, "2001, A Space Odyssey".

So, would you agree that in essence Mayock was saying that patience is a virtue when thinking of drafting Locker. I hear project in what you said Mayock mentioned when talking about Locker's delivery.

The reason I mentioned the word "project" is because throwing a pass with ill-advise lower half technique is a time learning concept than say, a shoulder throwing technique. Meaning that the upper body motion is easier to correct with practice. Which in itself is less cumbersome.

If I had to go by his Senior Bowl performance, which is the only time I actually have seen him play, I would take Locker in a lower round IF I wanted to take him. Yes, Locker needs much polish indeed.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

What I found interesting was when Mayock broke down Locker's footwork. His base is initially very narrow and then becomes really wide. They then said that that was like an infielder's throwing motion. He actually was a pitcher and outfielder

Perhaps some of Locker's issues are fixable.

Do you recall that clip from Bill Walsh we talked about in another thread?(i believe it was the Sam Bradford thread?)
The focus of Bill Walsh's QB instruction was from the waist down.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Do you recall that clip from Bill Walsh we talked about in another thread?(i believe it was the Sam Bradford thread?)
The focus of Bill Walsh's QB instruction was from the waist down.

My man, scribd got some of Walsh's coaching documents online. I read a good deal of that those. I know.

1985 Stanford University QB Manual - Bill Walsh- 232 pages

Found it a long time ago via Wikipedia's article on the WCO. Gooooooooooooooood stuff.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

My man, scribd got some of Walsh's coaching documents online. I read a good deal of that those. I know.

1985 Stanford University QB Manual - Bill Walsh- 232 pages

Found it a long time ago via Wikipedia's article on the WCO. Gooooooooooooooood stuff.

Very very nice.
Vielen Dank.

I've got a book for you: Finding the Winning Edge
Its a hard book to trackdown but if you can get your hands on that book you'll love it.
Its one the best football books ever.
I'm actually not exxagerating.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Very very nice.
Vielen Dank.

I've got a book for you: Finding the Winning Edge
Its a hard book to trackdown but if you can get your hands on that book you'll love it.
Its one the best football books ever.
I'm actually not exxagerating.

Thanks. Knew about it while searching for reviews on his other bio, but still haven't read it. Perhaps InterLibrary Loan will help me out when I can get some time.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

My man, scribd got some of Walsh's coaching documents online. I read a good deal of that those. I know.

1985 Stanford University QB Manual - Bill Walsh- 232 pages

Found it a long time ago via Wikipedia's article on the WCO. Gooooooooooooooood stuff.

Wow! Skimming it now.
Um wow.
I can't believe I haven't come across this document on the web before.
I coach football and i'm printing off the whole thing bro.
No joke BIGTIME Hail!

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Wow! Skimming it now.
Um wow.
I can't believe I haven't come across this document on the web before.
I coach football and i'm printing off the whole thing bro.
No joke BIGTIME Hail!

I appreciate the thanks but I don't deserve most of the credit. The props should go to the guy(s) who found and uploaded these docs and those Wikipedia users who linked it there. But hey, I'm glad I helped a fellow fan out.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

What I found interesting was when Mayock broke down Locker's footwork. His base is initially very narrow and then becomes really wide. They then said that that was like an infielder's throwing motion. He actually was a pitcher and outfielder

Perhaps some of Locker's issues are fixable.

Do you really want to use a #10 pick on a 50/50 proposition that Locker's problems are fixable? Cam Newton looks like a stud after only one year as a starter and Locker still comes off as a shaky underclassman after 4 years as a starting QB. Right now I like Gabbert and Ponder. Cam is hot, but to me is too much of a tease or gamble. I wish he would have gotten one more year in as a starter.