Is locker going in the first or second?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by juskins

Again, its whose opinion one values most. Mike Mayock is being kind when he said Locker is a top fifteen "athlete". He didn't say QB, but "in the top 15". Buyer beware: cautions, look at his attributes closely and judge accordingly.

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Senior Bowl: Breaking down North QBs «

The Skins need a QB to cultivate and Locker is not that QB. He has basic accuracies issues. If you look at the interview Mayock had with Locker and other QBs, you will see Mike is not sold on Locker. He asked Locker to comment on what others are saying about his preparation and his accuracy.

Stay away from this guy and I don't believe he is worth a first or second round pick. A Pack Ten wonder, please!

Wait what?
Since when has Mayock been 'kind' to a prospect?
He liked Tebow last year but still gave an honest assessment.
You understand that you basically questioned Mayock's integrity as a scout/draft expert right?

Its okay if you don't like Locker.
I've said that several times.
However, when you make posts like this where you claim that Mayock is not sold on Locker because of the way he interviewed him is silly.

When you post like this be prepared to support your specifics statements.
For example you say that Locker has 'basic' accuracy issues.
But, that statement simply isn't true.
Basic accuracy suggests that the guy isn't accurate at all.
But, Locker's accuracy issues are specific.
The majority of draftniks w/ the exception of Russ Lande will admit that Locker is actually very accurate outside of the pocket and on the move.
Mayock-Who is one of the few qualified draft experts b/c he (a) knows what he's talking about (b) watches film has pin-pointed Locker's exact issue.

Locker's accuracy in the pocket goes down when his vision goes down.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Wait what?
Since when has Mayock been 'kind' to a prospect?
He liked Tebow last year but still gave an honest assessment.
You understand that you basically questioned Mayock's integrity as a scout/draft expert right?

Its okay if you don't like Locker.
I've said that several times.
However, when you make posts like this where you claim that Mayock is not sold on Locker because of the way he interviewed him is silly.

When you post like this be prepared to support your specifics statements.
For example you say that Locker has 'basic' accuracy issues.
But, that statement simply isn't true.
Basic accuracy suggests that the guy isn't accurate at all.
But, Locker's accuracy issues are specific.
The majority of draftniks w/ the exception of Russ Lande will admit that Locker is actually very accurate outside of the pocket and on the move.
Mayock-Who is one of the few qualified draft experts b/c he (a) knows what he's talking about (b) watches film has pin-pointed Locker's exact issue.

Locker's accuracy in the pocket goes down when his vision goes down.

Yo, 30gut, did you look at the link I provided you with? I never said Mayock was talking out of his rear end. Listen to what he said in that clip and stop trying to make me the "heavy" here. BTW, can you explain the bold, italicize statement you made? Again, please view the clip I provided you with coming from Mayock.

CLIP, PLEASE VIEW HERE: NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Senior Bowl: Breaking down North QBs «

Accuracy is Accuracy no matter how you say it or whatever you do to fashion it. If Locker has issues in the pocket and can't hit his targets, then he is not the chosen one, is he?

Let's move on to the next QB on your want list, if you don't mind!

[30gut]

Originally Posted by juskins

BTW, can you explain the bold, italicize statement you made?

I'll let Mayock explain it:

Originally Posted by Mayock

Last year at this time everyone wanted to say he'd be the No. 1 pick in the draft, and now he's an afterthought in most people's minds. I don't understand that logic. He's got all the tools to be a top-level quarterback, all the physical tools. The size and the arm strength. I just question his pocket awareness. And that's where his accuracy issues come into play.

When he moves outside the pocket, either right or left, and not just scrambling, because they did a good job with plays that moved him outside the pocket and had him throw on the run, he has good vision and is as accurate as any quarterback you'll see. But he gets into some trouble in the pocket, seeing the field, and that's where his accuracy breaks down. I'm really excited to see him at the Senior Bowl (in two weeks) and see him working with other receivers. To me he's got first-round ability. But I just need to get more comfortable with him, and his pocket awareness.

Draft analyst: Locker has 'first-round ability'

If Locker has issues in the pocket and can't hit his targets, then he is not the chosen one, is he?

If it was cut and dry that Locker is inaccurate then he wouldn't be considered a top prospect by anyone especially well respected guys like Mayock and Gil Brandt.
I've watched a bunch of Washington games and I trust my eyes.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'll let Mayock explain it:

Draft analyst: Locker has 'first-round ability'

If it was cut and dry that Locker is inaccurate then he wouldn't be considered a top prospect by anyone especially well respected guys like Mayock and Gil Brandt.
I've watched a bunch of Washington games and I trust my eyes.

You never commented on the clip I provided you, 30gut, did you? Not once, but twice.

You are quoting Mayock before he saw Locker practices at the Senior Bowl, didn't you. That was then - not now.

Again, 30gut, view this clip and get back with me:

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Senior Bowl: Breaking down North QBs «

[30gut]

Originally Posted by juskins

You never commented on the clip I provided you, 30gut, did you? Not once, but twice.

You are quoting Mayock before he saw Locker practices at the Senior Bowl, didn't you. That was then - not now.

Again, 30gut, view this clip and get back with me:

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Senior Bowl: Breaking down North QBs «

I commented on that quote in my first reply:

However, when you make posts like this where you claim that Mayock is not sold on Locker because of the way he interviewed him is silly.

I actually watched the NFLN networks broadcast of the Senior Bowl practices so I not only heard Mayock and the rest of the cast in that clip but I heard them talk about the prospects throughout the entire practice.

Also, Mayock like most credible draft experts won't change their evaluation of QBs based on Senior Bowl practices its part of the evaluation process not the whole evaluation process.
Actually the most important aspect of the Senior bowl for QBs is their interaction w/ their teammates and coaches and their interviews w/ team scouts and GMs.

Also, i thought we agreed to keep the convo cool don't get so worked up.
Did you see the explanation you asked for?
Your welcome.

HTTR!
Oh, and this is the clip i think you're looking for:
NFL Videos: Senior Bowl: QBs on set

[juskins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I commented on that quote in my first reply:


I actually watched the NFLN networks broadcast of the Senior Bowl practices so I not only heard Mayock and the rest of the cast in that clip but I heard them talk about the prospects throughout the entire practice.

Also, Mayock like most credible draft experts won't change their evaluation of QBs based on Senior Bowl practices its part of the evaluation process not the whole evaluation process.
Actually the most important aspect of the Senior bowl for QBs is their interaction w/ their teammates and coaches and their interviews w/ team scouts and GMs.

Also, i thought we agreed to keep the convo cool don't get so worked up.
Did you see the explanation you asked for?
Your welcome.

HTTR!
Oh, and this is the clip i think you're looking for:
NFL Videos: Senior Bowl: QBs on set

30gut, do you fly jet planes? Because you zoomed over my points by suggesting that there is protocol at the Senior Bowl. So you are saying that whatever Mayock said in the past is molded into concrete. Sorry, but your boy is close to becoming a sucksville resident! Let's move on to your next gotta have QB on your list.

You are correct, I did use the wrong link. But again, this link says it all: NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Senior Bowl: Breaking down North QBs «

I hope you are not offended by me driving home my point: Locker has bust written all over him.

BTW, what do McNabb and Locker have in common? Right, they both throw the ball into the ground.

The link speaks for itself, there are accuracy issues. The guy throws balls into the ground. McNabb throws balls into the ground. Do we want McNabb? Why no! Because he throws balls into the ground.

30gut, I appreciate you standing your ground but your boy Locker has let you down. He was flying high in 2009, maybe he should have declared for the 2010 draft. Just saying bro.

And no, I didn't see or read your explanation explaining why Locker throws the ball into the ground. Could it be he is pressing too hard? Nah, he likes throwing inaccurate passes.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by juskins

Sorry, but your boy is close to becoming a sucksville resident! Let's move on to your next gotta have QB on your list.

You are correct, I did use the wrong link. But again, this link says it all: NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Senior Bowl: Breaking down North QBs «

I hope you are not offended by me driving home my point: Locker has bust written all over him.

BTW, what do McNabb and Locker have in common? Right, they both throw the ball into the ground.

No offense but you post like a child.
You provide many examples of how to post like a douche:
o make claims then when challenged post more claims with even less support
o Post the wrong link
o Whine about not receiving a respone to said wrong link, even though i responding to your wrong link the first time you posted it
o Don't have the courtesy to say thank you for posting the correct link for you
o Ask for clarification about a point which i provide then don't even bother to acknowledge it
o Create a long winded strawman argument involving McNabb yet don't even realize that if Locker is just like McNabb he's gonna have a good career

You did of good job disguising yourself as an intelligent poster but I see you couldn't keep up the fake.
I should have taken the first hint that you had no clue what you're talking about.
You're right Locker is just McNabb thanks for clearing that up for me.
Hail!
It amazes me how fans like you can develop such strong negative opinions about prospects by listening only to the opinions of the wrong draft "experts."
You've given me a great reminder of why I don't need to post in these forums anymore.

And for that i thank you.
Hail!

Don't bother responding to this post b/c i won't be responding to any of yours.