Ongoing CBA discussions

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

And an article by the NFLPA on Von Miller's decision to join the lawsuit. I know I am pro-owners, but read this and see if you see any justification from Von Miller, other than his agent and the great players Brady, Brees, and Manning asked him to put his name on the lawsuit. He doesn't make any attempt at explaining how it affects him, other than he's part of the "team" and wants to support his "team".

Von Miller On Suing the NFL*|*Pro Player Insiders

Finally, the players legal response to the NFL's legal response to Brady v NFL is due in today. I am looking forward to seeing that.

Good article. I highly doubt Von Miller's going to slip in the draft though. If so, I'm sure we would take him in a second at #10.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

And an article by the NFLPA on Von Miller's decision to join the lawsuit. I know I am pro-owners, but read this and see if you see any justification from Von Miller, other than his agent and the great players Brady, Brees, and Manning asked him to put his name on the lawsuit. He doesn't make any attempt at explaining how it affects him, other than he's part of the "team" and wants to support his "team".

Von Miller On Suing the NFL*|*Pro Player Insiders

Finally, the players legal response to the NFL's legal response to Brady v NFL is due in today. I am looking forward to seeing that.

Von Miller joining the lawsuit is perfectly rational even if you don't think he articulated his reasons in the article. Clearly Von Miller has a vested interest in securing his future earnings given "the league’s desire to implement a rookie wage scale that would apply to this year’s draft class."

There are no problems except the ones we create.

[saden1]

Looks like retired players are no fans of the NFL either. Apparently everyone wants to sue the NFL...I imagine NFL cities along with street vendors and parking garage owners will be next to sue.

Priest Holmes among four retirees to sue NFL, seek to join antitrust suit - ESPN

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

Looks like retired players are no fans of the NFL either. Apparently everyone wants to sue the NFL...I imagine NFL cities along with street vendors and parking garage owners will be next to sue.

Priest Holmes among four retirees to sue NFL, seek to join antitrust suit - ESPN

I know you are smart enough to understand a few things:
1) there are several retired player groups, some led by George Martin, have been more in the owners camp, some more in the players camp and a third independent group that has spoken up mainly for pre-1993 retirees

And

2) joining that lawsuit is more about preserving the retirees rights than it is siding with the union. As it states in the article, the once the union and owners let the cba expire the retirees have to act or else (at a certain point) they would lose certain benefits

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I know you are smart enough to understand a few things:
1) there are several retired player groups, some led by George Martin, have been more in the owners camp, some more in the players camp and a third independent group that has spoken up mainly for pre-1993 retirees

And

2) joining that lawsuit is more about preserving the retirees rights than it is siding with the union. As it states in the article, the once the union and owners let the cba expire the retirees have to act or else (at a certain point) they would lose certain benefits

Who said anything about siding with the union? Everyone is looking out for their own interest but some of us here think the owners care about the players when in fact "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is at play.

My previous posts on the subject are a treasure trove.

[SmootSmack]

Report: NFLPA to soon begin paying players - ESPN

[Hog1]

Strike funds (or in this case lockout) are usually the first disappointment in this type situation

[skinsfaninok]

Former Washington Redskins coach Joe Gibbs upset over lockout - ESPN

[skinsfaninok]

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[NM Redskin]

Obviously its the player vs the owners, but I wonder what the stance of the coaches around the NFL are? All the NFL teams are in the same boat, but we all know teams that aren't established are at more of a disadvantage during a work stoppage. If I was a coach on the hot seat, especially would a quick end to this CBA mess. At the same time you really cant piss off the boss or the player you attempt to coach. Probably better for them to stay out of it.

[Lotus]

Today is the Super Bowl in April! Our referee will be Susan Nelson. The NFLPA has won the toss and will kick off. Let's hope that there are no wardrobe malfunctions. In other news, Jerry Jones is selling courtroom seating which does not exist.

[MTK]

Ten things to know about the Wednesday court hearing | ProFootballTalk

[skinsfaninok]

Lets hope something good happens

[Mechanix544]

I see a one year return to the prior CBA and court mandated discussions during this time to finalize a new CBA for effect in year 2012, but this time with a deadline to agree on a deal. They miss the deadline, and they keep going back to the courts, which orders a temporary lifting of the lockout under conditions of the prior CBA for one year increments.

This happens, football happens. This doesn't, No football in the foreseeable future. Both sides are thick with knuckleheads that wont budge. Not really favorable during a standoff of these sorts.

[Dirtbag59]

Free Agency won't begin until June. The players will win this round but then the NFL will extend the lockouts by going after an appeal. I also hate that it's last years rules, with the final 4 in free agency and such.